Episode Transcript
[00:00:06] Speaker A: Welcome back to Split decision. This week on episode 17, we're gonna recap UFC Vegas 80, dawson versus Green.
Then we're gonna stay in Vegas to preview UFC Vegas 81, Yusuf versus Barboza. After that, we're going to draft our top five TV shows. And then we'll preview our favorite football matchups across college and the NFL. And finally, we'll cover our bets and picks for this week. But first, don't forget to go to Splitdecisionpod.com, where you'll find all of our recent episodes, our merch, our picks recaps and more. Again. That's splitdecisionpod.com. All right, let's go.
[00:01:15] Speaker B: By 33 2nd knockout, I don't know.
[00:01:18] Speaker A: If I would say fan favorite Bobby.
[00:01:20] Speaker B: Green for his record in the UFC, which is twelve and nine and one. Now, he has a pretty big he.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: Does have a big fan following. I just don't know if I would say fan favorite fight.
[00:01:33] Speaker B: He was the fan favorite. Definitely.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: Dawson has a lot of respect from the fans and he's not really beaten.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: Yeah, but he didn't lose respect. But he kind of lost some of his lust when he had the controversial Split Decision win.
[00:01:44] Speaker A: Oh, I forgot about that. Even though we spoke about it against Manson.
[00:01:47] Speaker B: But this is Bobby Green, his second win in a row after beating Tony.
[00:01:50] Speaker A: Ferguson, and he demolished Tony Ferguson. I guess he kind of dominated Dawson here as well.
[00:01:56] Speaker B: Dominated Dawson? Dawson's first career UFC loss. So it's a big deal for him. He moves to 20 wins, two losses now. I mean, the game plan for Dawson coming in was get Bobby Green to.
[00:02:07] Speaker A: The ground and just win the fight.
[00:02:08] Speaker B: Bobby Green's best path of victory was catching Grant Dawson and knocking him out on the feet. And that's kind of exactly what happened.
[00:02:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:16] Speaker B: You saw first major exchange, really, right.
[00:02:19] Speaker A: Dude, Dawson kind of shook his head. Not shook his head, but moved, fainting, trying to figure out a take, if he wants to shoot a takedown or not.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: It was a strange faint. It was an awkward movement.
[00:02:29] Speaker A: It almost looked like a takedown. But he was getting ready to have to absorb a strike because he knows that can back away and strike at the same time. And he just couldn't hang.
[00:02:40] Speaker B: And Bobby Green, I think he caught him with a left hand and just dropped into the ground. Got a few ground impound shots in. But Grant Dawson wasn't fighting back. The fight was over.
[00:02:48] Speaker A: Yeah, just immediately it was over. A lot of respect after the fight. Who do you think Bobby Green fights next? I have a few options in mind.
[00:02:56] Speaker B: I think his options are open because as I said, he kind of has a bigger name than his record stands. So he could fight anyone from like know I think he talked about dan hooker talked about dan hooker in the post fight, which I would love to see that fight, because it's two guys kind of just striking everybody. Striking bout, and everybody likes to watch those two guys fight. So I think the options are open for him. He's in a good spot.
[00:03:22] Speaker A: He is. And look, three look. Let's rewind back to May. This is not where you thought Bobby Green was going to be ending his 2023.
Looking back that far, you thought Bobby Green could have just been on his way out, not mounting a comeback, putting himself kind of firmly in the top 15.
[00:03:46] Speaker B: Yeah, he's a guy now. This is his 10th year in the UFC. He's definitely going to be around for year eleven. It looks like this was a solid win for Bobby Green main event. Always good to see one of those vets that kind of been up and down come in and get a solid winery late in their career.
[00:03:59] Speaker A: Right.
[00:04:00] Speaker B: To kind of reestablish themselves for the.
[00:04:03] Speaker A: Co. Main event, we had Joe Body Bags piper. Not Piper. Almost putting Abdul Razak Al Husayn in a body bag with a triangle choke. In the second round, he put him out cold. Al Hussein tried to tap, but his fist was closed.
[00:04:22] Speaker B: I was tapping with his fist closed. He was panicking.
[00:04:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:24] Speaker B: And for good reason, because he went out completely out.
[00:04:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Eyes rolled back in his head. He didn't even stand to get his hand raised. He went straight to the hospital.
[00:04:32] Speaker B: Yeah. When you get that choked out, like, they got to check, make sure everything's good.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: So Joe Piper is that dude.
[00:04:39] Speaker B: Five straight wins for Piper.
[00:04:42] Speaker A: Right.
[00:04:42] Speaker B: Five straight finishes as well. So that's an impressive streak.
[00:04:45] Speaker A: It's rare to see somebody this big with such a dominant wrestling background. This guy secured three takedowns inside of two rounds.
[00:04:53] Speaker B: He was beating him up on the feet, too.
[00:04:55] Speaker A: Well, that was actually what I was about to say.
[00:04:57] Speaker B: Totally dominated him throughout the entire fight.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: Complete double.
Look. Look at somebody like Bo Nickel, Paul Craig, who can strike well, but they're very good on the ground. Joe Piper stacking right up next to those guys.
[00:05:13] Speaker B: By the time you have both assets to your game, you have a chance to move up the very, very quickly. Very quickly, because you can match up with anybody.
[00:05:22] Speaker A: He said that Paul Craig's going to get his ass beat to Brendan Allen.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: Brendan Allen, which I like both fighters there. Me, too. But as a Louisiana guy, whoever loses, I don't know. Paul Craig's. My guy, though.
[00:05:34] Speaker A: I know, but we're not talking about those fights now. I think what you were about to say is whoever loses would be a viable candidate.
[00:05:42] Speaker B: Viable candidate. I think Chris Curtis might be a good one, too.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Good striking performance. The thing that I think Chris Curtis would run into problems there would be is just in the wrestling alone, you're looking at the sheer dominant performance. In just looking at this past weekend, piper's like a force to be reckoned with is, I think, how they say it right.
[00:06:02] Speaker B: Correct. But you also got to remember Al Hasim's a guy that he's not I mean, he had zero subs in his career. He's not a ground guy, he's a knockout guy. So he had a good game plan.
[00:06:16] Speaker A: I think somebody like, you know, if you're not focusing on a wrestler, somebody like Brad Tavares or Chris Curtis would be great options for him to fight.
[00:06:25] Speaker B: Moving. I think he's definitely moving up the ladder, though, getting closer to getting ranked. And then once you get ranked yeah.
[00:06:33] Speaker A: They didn't give a fight of the night. They had just awarded 450 thousand dollars bonuses. This is one of those usually they.
[00:06:41] Speaker B: Call it performance of the night.
[00:06:42] Speaker A: Performance of the night. I was trying to think of the term, I just didn't want to sound like an idiot. I do that often enough as it.
[00:06:48] Speaker B: A solid win from Piper.
[00:06:49] Speaker A: He really made himself a contender, in my opinion.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: Contender. And he put good tape out there. It was a good performance. Yep. All right, so the next fight we're moving on to is Joaquin Buckley, who put on a great performance against Murano. Buckley came in, he dominated the fight. Murano really had no answers for him. Won every round. Arguably had a ten, arguably had a ten eight round. Even had two takedowns in the fight. One by unanimous decision. Buckley looks like a new man at 170. It seems to have, I don't want to say resurrected his career, but let him take that next step.
[00:07:24] Speaker A: Almost found his power.
[00:07:26] Speaker B: Found his power. You found where he should be.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: Right. Made it not too down of a weight class to where he's having to cut, constantly cut for the entire camp to get through the weight. But having to cut still keeps all his power.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: I mean, he's a guy with the way he fights, if he can get a few wins in a row, he'll have a lot of people that are excited to fight to watch him fight. And he'll grow a fan base because he is one of the more exciting guys to watch fight. Just how different he is and how athletic he is.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: No, I agree. Two and O since moving to welterweight.
[00:08:01] Speaker B: Which seven and four now overall in the UFC.
[00:08:04] Speaker A: So, like you say, career moving in the right direction. I think because of this win, he feels the same way. So following his win, he asked for it's weird. He asked for a main event of a fight night specifically.
[00:08:22] Speaker B: Yeah, you got to know your place. He's big enough to main event a fight night, but he knows he can't main event.
[00:08:26] Speaker A: I know, but it was just so weak because how he was saying it was so weirdly specific. He was like, Listen, this is not a demand. This is just a request. Can I please headline a UFC fight night?
[00:08:40] Speaker B: Hey, you got to call your shot sometimes.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: So look, I appreciate that. I think, honestly, I agree with you. I think he's a perfect candidate for it. Perfect fight idea. For me, from me, that makes me.
[00:08:52] Speaker B: Hesitant is we already saw Kevin Holland knock him the fuck out.
[00:08:55] Speaker A: Well, that was what I was telling me.
[00:08:56] Speaker B: He had a booger in his nose. And then knock him out.
[00:08:58] Speaker A: A rematch for that fight, kevin Holland versus Joaquin Buckley, I would be opposed to it. But remember, Joaquin Buckley took that fight. Coming into the UFC on short notice was his debut. He did get knocked out, yes. But I do believe he grew since then. So at least it would be a better at least competition for Buckley.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: It would get people to tune in because people would like to see both.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: Those guys fight and Holland's coming off of a loss.
[00:09:27] Speaker B: Exactly. Another guy I think could be in there, neil Magni, maybe also a guy coming off of a loss.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: Right. I agree.
[00:09:33] Speaker B: Against Ian Gary. He's a guy ranked like 1314. I believe, so that'd be a good fight. Michael Kiesa, if he wants to fight again, yeah.
[00:09:42] Speaker A: If he wants to get murdered, that would be great.
[00:09:44] Speaker B: We don't know if he's done or not, but that would be up there and then a dark horse.
I know he would fight him because he's a guy that fights literally anybody.
[00:09:54] Speaker A: If you anywhere, if he's in the States, he'll do it.
[00:09:57] Speaker B: But I think JDM. Deserves he's newly ranked number twelve. I think he deserves somebody like ten, nine, like somebody above him, because he's a guy moving up. But I would like to see that fight, too. Joaquin Buckley. JDM jack della Malina.
[00:10:12] Speaker A: I agree. I agree. It would be a good one. I don't see him moving down to take that fight.
Another monstrous performance in the lightweight division, and as we say every single week, it's probably the scariest division in the UFC. Normal sized dudes walking around, just being murderers.
Drew Dober knocked Ricky The Gladiator Glenn out halfway through the first round with just a vicious assault.
It's like he stood him up. And then when Glenn took the punch to the face, his expression just went, oh, fuck.
[00:10:48] Speaker B: Drew Dober's a scary dude. Did you ever watch Fairly OD Parents?
[00:10:51] Speaker A: I did.
[00:10:52] Speaker B: What is the chin guy superhero?
[00:10:56] Speaker A: Chip? No, that's Chip Skylark. That's the musician. I don't know. We'll look it up, but I know exactly the crimson chin.
[00:11:04] Speaker B: It might be the crimson chin. That is Drew Dober. He has an exquisite chin, and he looked like a superhero in this fight. He dominated the fight. And like you said, once he got a clean shot on Glenn, his whole demeanor and facial expression changed. That power was for real.
[00:11:21] Speaker A: Look, he's had a good long career. He's still pretty young. He added that win to his belt. He added a UFC record in the lightweight division. Nine knockouts.
[00:11:32] Speaker B: He's now won four out of his last five fights.
[00:11:34] Speaker A: It's pretty he. He called out Michael Chandler, because I do agree it would be a striking masterpiece.
[00:11:42] Speaker B: I mean, who has the better chin between him or the better physique versus Michael Chandler? That'd be awesome.
[00:11:47] Speaker A: That would hold true in a fight with him and Dustin Poirier, him and Justin Gaethje, but he's just not quite there in the ranking.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: I think he gets a rank next, but it's definitely not a guy in the top.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: So who's more realistic? He's lost to Islam frivola Darush, but he's beaten Bobby green, terrence McKinney, you know, bobby green.
[00:12:09] Speaker B: Just maybe a rematch versus Bobby green. Dan Hooker. I wouldn't mind seeing him fight. I think that would be a good fight. That'd be another one where both guys are coming and bringing the violence.
[00:12:19] Speaker A: Yeah. What about Grant Dawson?
[00:12:20] Speaker B: Just lost Grant Dawson. That wouldn't be bad.
[00:12:23] Speaker A: They're on the same kind of recovery timeline to at least be able to fight.
[00:12:29] Speaker B: I mean, I think Dobra is going to come back a lot quicker than.
[00:12:31] Speaker A: Dawson mentally, for sure.
[00:12:34] Speaker B: And then what about Jalen Turner, another guy? That that wouldn't be a bad fight.
[00:12:37] Speaker A: Always down. Always down to fight.
[00:12:39] Speaker B: Always down to fight. He just had that great fight with Dan Hooker a few months ago, or Dustin Poirier, even. I still think that's way.
[00:12:51] Speaker A: It's very high up there, but Poirier's.
[00:12:53] Speaker B: Not taking that fight. Poirier's only, like he said, like fights that sell legends.
[00:12:58] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. He's in a different spot in his career. I just want to see Poirier fight every week.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: I agree. But Drew Dober, I think he has a lot of options going forward. I think as a guy, he can when he's on his A game, he can make some noise in the lightweight division.
I'm excited to see where he goes.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: All right, so opening up the main card and then closing out our recap of UFC Vegas 80. Bill algio Senor Perfecto dominated all three rounds against Alexander Hernandez, proving to everybody that he belongs in the UFC. He used his size, his elusive striking, his kicks to keep Alex at bay.
He won the fight single all handedly. All handedly. Unanimous decision, however you want to say it. 30 27 on the cards.
[00:13:48] Speaker B: Yeah, he picked up his fifth UFC win, moves to five and three overall, second straight UFC win. So maybe he's building a little momentum to try to progress his career, maybe a couple of wins away from getting a ranked fight.
[00:14:03] Speaker A: He's a big dude in the featherweight division. I think that's one of the main things that kind of helped elevate him in this fight. Specifically, he was able to do a lot to keep Alexander Hernandez at bay, keeping him at distance, not letting him get anything started.
It was a great performance. It showed his versatility. There was no knockouts, but there was a knock.
[00:14:24] Speaker B: I like his call outs at the end of the fight.
[00:14:26] Speaker A: Yeah, we had Call Outs. We had Billy Q. We had Crone, Gracie, anthony Fauci, Mark Zuckerberg. And then he said, I guess we can talk about Nate Landwear at the end.
[00:14:37] Speaker B: Personally, I would like to see him versus I'd take I'd take him.
[00:14:41] Speaker A: And honestly, when I kind of felt Crone Gracie was a joke. And then he said fauci, and I was like, I don't even know which ones of these call outs are throwing it. He's just throwing anybody. He's like, I don't know, I'll do whatever. Just give me a fight. Pay me, I don't care. He said his callouts never work. DC. Was laughing about it. Mad respect to Bill. I don't know who he fights next, but it's not going to be a ranked opponent. Not quite know, a couple more fights, a couple more wins under his belt and I think he'll be there.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: All right, so let's move on to our top five this week. This week another week at the apex in Vegas. So we're kind of doing a wild card top five draft this week. Our top five draft is going to be TV shows.
I think this is probably one of the most wide ranging with plenty of good option. Top fives we've done in a while.
[00:15:37] Speaker A: Yeah. It really matters who you are as well.
[00:15:39] Speaker B: There's a lot of ways to go with it.
[00:15:40] Speaker A: Yeah. What kind of stuff you like? I mean, could you imagine if you asked an eight year old exactly. You would dominate him in a top five draft.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: This is going to be a fun one. I think we both have a lot of TV shows we haven't watched together, but we watched them and talked about.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: Right. We're aware that we know that we've watched a lot of the same things.
[00:16:01] Speaker B: So I think this is going to be a fun one. And I think this week you get to start off first. So you get number one and then we go in the snake order. So why don't you kick us off?
[00:16:10] Speaker A: All right. This one has been tearing at me for a while and a while just being all day.
[00:16:16] Speaker B: I know we both have around the top, like same probably half of the.
[00:16:21] Speaker A: Top ten out of the 20. If we each wrote down 20, I'd say ten are the same.
Not necessarily order.
[00:16:29] Speaker B: Good chance these first few picks are taken ones from each other.
[00:16:33] Speaker A: So this pick, my number one is Sopranos.
[00:16:39] Speaker B: It's a good one. That would have been probably my number one.
[00:16:42] Speaker A: The reason being, not only is it a fantastic show filled with drama, I just watched it for the first time, such a good show in the past few years and it holds up. I binged it.
I've been talking to you about rewatching it already.
Sopranos is a great option, but the other reason why I picked it as my number one, a lot of shows kind of give credit to Sopranos.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: It's such a good it would have been my number one.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: Right?
[00:17:16] Speaker B: It's a great show.
[00:17:17] Speaker A: So they give credit to these Sopranos for giving them the idea or the audacity to do what they were trying to do. So kudos to Sopranos, such a great show and think nothing else has to be said about that.
[00:17:32] Speaker B: That's a good number one pick. My number one is one that I'm rewatching. It's probably the show I've rewatched the most of my life. This is probably like my 7th time watching it through and through, no eye. It's going to be Mad Men. I think it's one of the best written shows in terms of characters, character development, attention to detail, good storylines.
And it's hard to make a show that interesting, really nothing when there's no action going on.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: Dude, if you think about it, Sopranos, what is Sopranos about? It's about the mob.
It talks about all their crime. It has the action, the violence and everything.
[00:18:13] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's about the ad agency. It has the ads.
[00:18:15] Speaker A: I know, but no, I'm saying think about it broadly. Don't let yourself dive in. I agree with you. It's a crazy good show, but just on a broad spectrum. Sopranos is about all this crazy mischief.
[00:18:27] Speaker B: Just about an ad agency.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: And then Madman is about an ad agency set in the 60s.
[00:18:32] Speaker B: Yeah, but just the period piece.
[00:18:33] Speaker A: It is such a good show, though. I agree with you. It's a solid show. It was on my list. It was going to be somewhere in this top five. I just don't know where I could have gotten it. I assumed it was also going to be on your list. Donald Draper? What is John Ham?
[00:18:49] Speaker B: I mean, iconic character.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: Great guy.
[00:18:52] Speaker B: Iconic TV character.
[00:18:54] Speaker A: I agree. Great top. Great top one.
[00:18:57] Speaker B: So we're going in the snake. So I get my number two. This is a tough one for me because there's a lot of good shows. There's a couple of shows I might have put here, but I think I can get them later in the draft.
[00:19:06] Speaker A: See, that's what makes me nervous about the draft situation.
[00:19:09] Speaker B: But this is a number two that I think is universally regarded as one of the best shows of all time. Another iconic character in Walter White. My number two breaking Bad.
[00:19:19] Speaker A: I mean, I had that on my list, as we said.
[00:19:22] Speaker B: You said Madman's kind of just about an ad agency. Breaking Bad is about a science teacher making meth. That's the broad scope of it.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: Right.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: See, that's what I like to mean. It's a great show, a great mean. It made people take Brian Cranston serious as an actor. The only thing I had seen him in before that of relevance, malcolm in the Middle, where he was the funny dad.
[00:19:45] Speaker A: So I'm kind of in the same boat there. I didn't watch a lot of things with Brian Cranston until between Malcolm in the Middle and Breaking put him on.
[00:19:54] Speaker B: The map and now he's regarded as one of the best actors. But it's also crazy TV show wise, at least.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: At least. Looking back on my perception of the show, they almost placed him in the same kind of house as the Malcolm in the middle house.
[00:20:06] Speaker B: There's a bunch of theories online that it's the same guy, it's the same character.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: Bro, that's wild.
I don't know. I agree. It's a great show. It was definitely going to be on my list as well. I'm still trying to get my wife to finish.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: It such a good show.
[00:20:21] Speaker A: But in The Broad.
[00:20:25] Speaker B: Well, I don't want to give away another picks, but it had one of the best sequel or like spin off shows of all time.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that is another good show.
[00:20:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:37] Speaker A: I don't know. What's your number three pick?
[00:20:40] Speaker B: Well, I just have my one two, so you get your two.
[00:20:43] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's true. Sorry. So my number two, I'm kind of trying to buy time because this list is hard.
[00:20:48] Speaker B: I'll do another pick if you want me to.
[00:20:49] Speaker A: No, don't. All right, so if my number one is The Sopranos broad scope being just the crime, the power behind it and everything, man, I think I got to go. Game of Thrones as my number two. I know you didn't watch this show and I didn't watch it until it was completely out.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: I tried to watch it. It wasn't for me. But I respect it.
[00:21:12] Speaker A: It's a fantasy show. It's one of those things that's just not for everybody. I respect it though, but it is a wild journey.
Most people who have seen it, I also would rope in the kind of prequel show.
It's not connected necessarily, but it's just as good. Game of Thrones fantasy land. It's got dragons, ice demon.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: The only thing I'll say about Game of Thrones is pretty much every show we mentioned so far has like one main iconic character, while Game of Thrones has a lot of good ones. There's nobody that like a casual fan, so I don't think would be like.
[00:21:49] Speaker A: This is the I think it was out for like eight seven or eight years or that I started it when the final season was premiering weekly.
Sean Bean or whatever his name is, in the first season, it's like a huge named actor. They murder him in the first season of that show. Not even at the end of the season.
They're using these massive actors and actresses.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: You can't even attach yourself to people.
[00:22:19] Speaker A: No. Everyone dies. You just don't know when or how. It's amazing. It's amazing. So that's why I picked Game of Thrones number two. I think it kind of just holds that kind of weight. It's also a lengthy watch. It's a long show. So number two, Game of Thrones number three.
Another toughie.
It's hard because you only get five.
[00:22:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:47] Speaker A: It kind of goes into that rewatch ability.
It's got to pull after you. You got to be able to watch it anytime to be able to get through it. I think The Office is my number three. I could watch any episode and love the moment that it's in.
[00:23:07] Speaker B: I used to be like that, but lately I've kind of grown out of The Office for the first time in my life. But it is a great show. Show you can watch a whole bunch.
[00:23:16] Speaker A: Of actually, I like that it's not on Netflix anymore because it kind of gives you that love.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: It's too accessible, right?
[00:23:28] Speaker A: It gives you a love for it back.
[00:23:29] Speaker B: I do have peacock, though.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: I do too.
Yeah, but in kind of regards to that, it's not in front of your face every day. Like if you're a Netflix user, which I am, I'm on Netflix all the time. If it was on there, that's all I would watch. I would never watch anything new. I'm happy that it's gone that way. I can kind of broaden my horizons. But The Office probably the best comedy of my generation. It's a good show and it's another long, binge worthy show. It's connected, it's well thought out, well written, and it's smart.
What you got for your number three?
[00:24:05] Speaker B: So my number three is going to be another show with an iconic character. Another time, like a show set in time. My number three is going to be Peaky Blinders. Thomas Shelby. Great show. Kind of has Soprano vibes where it's like a mob. They're pretty much a mob in late 1910s, early 1920s Britain, Birmingham, Britain, like middle of the industrial age.
[00:24:32] Speaker A: Yeah, you put me onto that show. It was a very, very good, very good show that really opened my eyes to Cillian Murphy.
[00:24:39] Speaker B: Cillian Murphy.
[00:24:40] Speaker A: Great actor, man. Fantastic actor.
[00:24:43] Speaker B: Thomas Shelby is an iconic character that I think he's become a meme almost Thomas Shelby. Yeah, especially the way the Peaky Blinders themselves, their whole style has become like a meme and a subculture, right?
[00:24:55] Speaker A: It really has.
When you initially told me about that show, you were telling me how good it was and you're like, yeah, it's these you know, they're basically mobsters. They have razor blades in their like they're willing to slash you up. I'm like what?
[00:25:08] Speaker B: Yeah, it's crazy.
[00:25:09] Speaker A: I was like, It doesn't seem interesting. And then I clicked on it and it's got just this wildly in depth story, well written. I think every show towards the end of its run goes a little crazy. This one kind of does the same thing.
[00:25:24] Speaker B: He becomes a member of Parliament, starts dealing with the Nazis. Essentially a senator starts dealing with Nazis, right? So it kind of flirts with Nazism, gets wild.
[00:25:34] Speaker A: But that's kind of how shows have to end, or kind of the natural course of shows. But I like that as a pick. Peaky Blinders is a very good show. What is your number four? Sir.
[00:25:46] Speaker B: All right, so my number four is going to kind of I don't know if this stretches the rules of TV show. It's going to be a miniseries.
[00:25:52] Speaker A: Oh, man. I don't want you to pick what I think you're going to pick.
[00:25:55] Speaker B: My number four is going to be Banda Brothers.
[00:25:57] Speaker A: Okay. Not what I thought. That's good.
[00:25:59] Speaker B: Banda Brothers, World War II, D Day story. I mean, it's a great show if you go back and watch it. Some great actors in it. Tom Hardy makes like a random appearance at the end.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: Shout out Tom Hardy and Peaky Blinders as well.
[00:26:12] Speaker B: Exactly. Band of brothers. Just a great show. An emotional one. When they get I think it's like towards the end of the series and they find a concentration camp.
[00:26:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:24] Speaker B: It is like one of the most gut wrenching it's like, holy shit. They make it seem so real.
[00:26:28] Speaker A: Yeah, you put me onto a lot of those war dramas, miniseries, documentaries, even books, man. It's really eye opening tug at your heart, right?
[00:26:40] Speaker B: It's crazy.
[00:26:40] Speaker A: It's really tough.
[00:26:42] Speaker B: Great show.
Tom Hanks was like the co producer.
[00:26:47] Speaker A: Oh, I didn't know.
[00:26:48] Speaker B: Writer.
[00:26:49] Speaker A: That's cool.
[00:26:50] Speaker B: I mean, just all around. They came out with the Pacific after, which was good. Not quite as good. And supposedly they're about to come out with another one about some aviators in World War II.
[00:27:03] Speaker A: The only issue, like, they have that one. They have Generation Kill, which was another one similar to that. It was just set, I think, in the Gulf War 2008. Something like that.
[00:27:12] Speaker B: I believe so.
[00:27:13] Speaker A: Very good show. Another one of those things where it dives into kind of the psyche behind it. It kind of gives you as much of a feeling as a normal person could get of the emotions that are running through these people's heads that we just see on a screen. Very good stuff.
Like you said, gut wrenching, heart wrenching. Makes you feel terrible for them, but it's great to watch. So that gives you four. So I go four or five and then you go your last one and then we're done, right?
[00:27:44] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:27:45] Speaker A: All right.
Oh, man.
So my number four has got to be man, this is tough because I want to say a couple of things, but the shows aren't done, so I don't feel like I can I'll give them honorable mentions.
The Wire. Did you ever see The Wire?
[00:28:05] Speaker B: I did. It's a great show.
[00:28:06] Speaker A: I love the wire. It's a great show. It's another one of those shows.
[00:28:10] Speaker B: They had Sopranos and like a few years later, then they had that right going at So that it was like their second hit in a row. And I was like, holy shit, another.
[00:28:18] Speaker A: Show that but it kind of directly paid homage to The Sopranos by being able to go on those jumping leaps of faith and hoping that the audience is going to love it because TV like that. Hadn't been done before. And having HBO as its backer, to be able to know different kinds of things, children committing crimes more or less just left and right and painting the picture know, was reality in some places. It was very good, very hard to watch in some cases, but a fantastic show. Fantastic HBO show. I think kind of looking at this list, man, a lot of this was.
[00:28:57] Speaker B: Out with they come out with good shows. They can show a lot more, as.
[00:29:00] Speaker A: You said, high quality content.
[00:29:03] Speaker B: All right, so what you got for number five?
[00:29:06] Speaker A: So this one, I think for me, this show has been close to my heart forever. I've seen it through and through probably four times. I've even seen the new reboot season that they did in 2017 that nobody watched, man. The X Files for me, with a lose. I know, dude. That show just always the conspiracy behind it where it's not too serious, but it is serious. They've kept it connected.
[00:29:35] Speaker B: I never got into it.
[00:29:37] Speaker A: Tied up a bunch of loose ends. I love David Duchovny. He was great in Californication. I prefer him in this X files. Mulder and Scully for the win.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: You get the nerd vote.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, sometimes that's all you need, man.
[00:29:52] Speaker B: Sometimes that is all you need.
[00:29:54] Speaker A: X Files, number five, what you got is your number fifth. And also, I didn't waste like a second pick for it.
[00:30:01] Speaker B: At least my last pick is going to be it's a show you can watch.
I've watched a few episodes sounds like you love more than once. Okay, watched a few episodes more than once. It's one of those shows. Funny guys. It's a reality show. But the banter between these two, all three guys, can I guess what's your first guess?
[00:30:21] Speaker A: Queer eye for the Straight guy.
[00:30:23] Speaker B: Close. It's going to be the UK version of Top Gear.
[00:30:26] Speaker A: Oh, dude, I love that show.
[00:30:27] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a great show. You learn a lot about cars. They're funny.
[00:30:31] Speaker A: Hold on. Which era, though?
[00:30:34] Speaker B: You know the era I'm talking about.
[00:30:35] Speaker A: So the guys that went on to.
[00:30:37] Speaker B: Do the Amazon series yeah, what was that called?
[00:30:40] Speaker A: Like the greatest grand tour.
[00:30:43] Speaker B: Grand tour.
[00:30:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay.
[00:30:45] Speaker B: Those guys. Top Gear UK. Everybody knows what we're talking about when we name that as one of the best. It was just a great show. Their chemistry, all three guys was perfect. They were funny.
[00:30:57] Speaker A: James May madsen.
[00:30:58] Speaker B: They had cool cars. They had shitty cars. It was just awesome. They went to insane places.
[00:31:04] Speaker A: It's a good show.
[00:31:05] Speaker B: Drove to Africa and shit.
[00:31:07] Speaker A: Not a car person, but a car. Like somebody who wouldn't be bored by car talk.
[00:31:14] Speaker B: Exactly. You didn't have to be super into cars to watch and enjoy the show.
[00:31:18] Speaker A: And they also quite a few episodes. They take heavy stabs on real life current events.
[00:31:25] Speaker B: They do that. And they will tell you what cars are good and what cars are they'll straight up say, like, this car sucks.
[00:31:30] Speaker A: Don't buy the Beetle, or whatever. Yeah, pretty great show.
[00:31:34] Speaker B: Yeah. That's our top fives. So, my top five, to recap, number one, Mad Men, number two, Breaking Bad, number three, Peaky Blinders. Number four Banda Brothers. And number five top Gear. The UK edition.
[00:31:46] Speaker A: And my top five, obviously, we both think each other's is better, or, no, not each other's, our own is better. Sopranos, number one, game of Thrones, number two. Number three is the office. Number four is the wire. Number five for the conspiracy theorists. X Files.
[00:32:08] Speaker B: All right, so let's move ahead to our UFC 81 preview this weekend main event.
[00:32:15] Speaker A: Another one in the apex.
[00:32:17] Speaker B: Another one in the apex, which is kind of disappointing. Edson Barbosa, though, the legend taking on Yusuf. That's the main event. We're going to start with the first fight of the main card, though. I think there's six fights in this main card. They just added one a couple of days ago.
[00:32:33] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think they're even trying to do that cancellation from last weekend. Felipe Lenz and Ion Coutellaba, they're trying to move that to this weekend as well. Yeah.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: So we'll see if that happens. But the first fight we're going to cover is Christian Sea Rod. Rodriguez, nine and one overall. Two and one in the UFC. Coming off of a win against Rosa Jr. He kind of ended the teenage hype. Not ended the hype, but kind of.
[00:32:58] Speaker A: Stopped the train, slowed down the train, slowed it down.
[00:33:01] Speaker B: And he's taken on the undefeated South African Cameron Simon, who trains with Dracos Duplicy. He knocks people out. Kind of like Dracos. Duplicate has power. This is going to be a good fight, I think.
[00:33:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm still in the camp that if you lose to Roll Rosa Jr. You need to retire because he's a teenager beating grown men up in the UFC. So, good job, Christian Rodriguez, for getting to not retire. Sea Rod's, two and one in the UFC.
He's got a tough fight ahead of him with the knockout power of Cameron Simon. Honestly, on this one, I think the South African takes it. I think Simon being nine and O isn't a fluke. He's three and o so far in the UFC. Two finishes. I believe it was two knockouts, two TKO.
[00:33:48] Speaker B: Ko finishes, right.
[00:33:50] Speaker A: He has six total knockouts, one submission, two decisions. He's never lost a fight. I think he moves to ten and O this weekend because he's an explosive striker, but he's also smart. He knows when not to just rush in there. He knows when to kind of stand back and time his shots.
[00:34:08] Speaker B: Yeah, these are two guys, too. Rodriguez, 25, cameron Simon, only 22. So two young guys and who have all the potential in the world, honestly, to keep moving up the rankings. I agree with you, though. I think Simon gets it done. I think he stays undefeated.
Rodriguez I think he's going to put up a good fight and it's going to be a good fight, but I think Simon just has a little too.
[00:34:28] Speaker A: Much power in the flyweight division. For the next fight. We have Edgar Chavez facing off again against Daniel de la Silva. This is a rematch from Noce. UFC had the crazy tap, not tap.
[00:34:43] Speaker B: Well, it wasn't a tap. His arm went limp, so the ref.
[00:34:46] Speaker A: Okay, so what do you prefer? Do you prefer somebody like Al Hassan who is tapping and the ref can't tell and he goes unconscious, or do you prefer the ref thinks he's tapping and he stops it?
[00:34:57] Speaker B: If I like the fighter getting choked, I'd rather stop it early, but I would rather get a definite decision and take a win away from somebody dominating the fight.
[00:35:09] Speaker A: Okay, so listen, weirdly enough, edgar Chavez was winning that round by a triangle choke. The ref thought de la Silva was tapped. His arm kind of went limp on the last fight. It didn't. They looked at the replay.
[00:35:25] Speaker B: That took away his first win in the UFC. He's one and one now in the UFC. Neither of these guys have a UFC win, by the way.
[00:35:32] Speaker A: It's pretty crazy. Chariz is built like a freaking door. He has the broadest flattest chest I've.
[00:35:40] Speaker B: Ever seen, is a Dustin Poirier wide body.
[00:35:42] Speaker A: Yeah, but I don't know. It looks like his back is on backwards. It's weird. So that's a big rematch.
I don't know who's going to win here. Honestly.
[00:35:54] Speaker B: I think Charles is going to come in and he's the huge favorite.
[00:35:57] Speaker A: He is the huge favorite. I just don't think he's going to win the same way. It's kind of got Chariz and De la Silva both got to see, like a preview of what they got to expect in a fight against each other. It's like almost they got to watch a movie trailer of them fighting them. So I'm interested in help.
[00:36:20] Speaker B: He's lucky this wasn't his fifth straight time getting finished.
[00:36:23] Speaker A: Yeah, because in my opinion, Charles was well on his way.
[00:36:26] Speaker B: I didn't think it was that premature, if I'm being honest. His arm went limp to me.
[00:36:31] Speaker A: Look, I'm going to side with you. I'd say Edgar Charles wins. I don't think he gets the sub this time. I think it might go to the cards because de la Silva is going to just have to be a little bit smarter.
[00:36:42] Speaker B: De La Silva's never been to the cards.
[00:36:44] Speaker A: Well, maybe it's time.
[00:36:45] Speaker B: Even in his wins and losses, never once been to the scorecards.
[00:36:48] Speaker A: He's been to the no contest cards.
Been to the no contest cards, brother.
[00:36:53] Speaker B: All right, so the next spot we're going to cover is Andre Petroski taking on Michelle Pereira. Both guys come in five straight wins. Petrovsky five and o overall in the UFC with three finishes, three out of his five wins. He looks like that dude. Ten and one career record. As I said, five and O in the UFC. He's taken on Michelle Pereira, who has a lot more experience than him. Michelle Pereira still somehow only 30 years old.
[00:37:19] Speaker A: Michelle Pereira is kind of like me, though.
He got weight issues.
[00:37:26] Speaker B: He did miss weight in his last fight, like three pounds. And Steven Thompson decided wonder boy decided not to fight him, which fair play to him because he didn't even try. If you missed by three pounds, that means you kind of just gave up, dude.
[00:37:39] Speaker A: It's like you went to Domino's and got a large pizza right before you weighed in.
[00:37:43] Speaker B: But as I said, he's won five straight. But the problem is he hasn't because of that issue, he hasn't fought since May of 2022. Obviously, there's a lot of time in between that fight and the rest of the time he just hasn't been active. So you have to wonder if there's going to be a little octagon rust if he's going to come in and be performing at top level. Because he's fighting a guy in Petroski who's been on fire and he's fought last in August. So he's rolling.
[00:38:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And I guess, well, this might be the benefit to Pereira in this sense that he's new to the middleweight division, so he may be able to just kind of be free. But that may weigh on his lungs a little bit, may add power, weigh on his lungs. You never know how he's going to take it. If he keeps to the lower end of the weight class and just kind of beefs up right before the fight, that'd be a good thing as long as he's staying lean. But we already seen him have problems with weight in the other division, so who knows what we're going to see out of Pereira coming out.
[00:38:40] Speaker B: I have Petroski winning this fight. I think his streak continues. I think he moves to six wins in a row, six and O in the UFC. I just think, as we said, because of the he's been busy. He's been fighting right.
[00:38:56] Speaker A: No ring rust.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: No ring rust. He's been very active on a guy who just took a lot of time off. I got Petroski one in.
[00:39:03] Speaker A: I think I have to agree. I'm going to pick Petroski as know. I think he's gonna ride that hot streak he's on, carry it into a Pereira that could very well, like you said, be rusty and what'll probably be rated as a toss up for the Lions up until Saturday. We have Jonathan Dragon Martinez in the bantamweight division fighting Adrian Yanez evenly matched guys here betting lines are telling you that I got -110 on both yeah.
[00:39:36] Speaker B: I think it pretty much pick them.
[00:39:38] Speaker A: Very skilled strikers here.
[00:39:41] Speaker B: Yeah, Yanez comes in. He lost his last fight before that, had nine straight wins, five and one in the UFC and four out of his five wins. Pointing to your point of both guys being strong strikers. Four out of his five wins have been kotko. So he's a guy.
[00:39:56] Speaker A: He brings it every single time. And I think that's exactly what we're going to be seeing. I think no matter if it's a ground heavy attack, because both guys can submit you, we've seen they're not aiming for it every time, but two submissions each isn't anything to scoff at at all. They're both obviously going to be aiming for the knockout. I think that's when we could see some ground game coming in because you have to know understanding what the other guy's bringing into the fight. So I think to mix it up, jonathan Martinez is going to try to get some takedowns, work the ground game, get that knockout early. I picked Jonathan Martinez to win the fight.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I got Janez, so we'll see how this one goes.
All right, so the co main event of the evening is Jennifer Maya taking on Vivian Aryu Joe. Maya comes in two wins in a row, three and two in her last five, six and five overall in the UFC. Six straight fights have gone to the scorecard. She's won some of those. She's lost some of those, obviously. So she's a decision fighter.
Hasn't really knocked anybody out lately, hasn't got a sub lately. So look for that. She's taking an Ru Joe, who comes in on a two fight losing streak, five and four of her on the UFC.
How do you see this fight going?
[00:41:14] Speaker A: Well, to be honest, she did lose to lady killers Amanda Reeboss. And it's that is know, it's not like she lost to um honestly, I think this is going to be still Jennifer Maya's fight. I think she's just more poised. I think she's kind of got that success in her favor. Giving her know, winning a know, having early success recent is going to just help her get the win, in my opinion. I think she's going to win by decision. A lot of women's fights do end like that, especially on the fight night ones, because they're not ranked, so they're not as, you know. I think we get a Jennifer Maya win here. What do you think?
[00:41:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I think we both agree. I think Maya wins. I think it's probably by decision.
[00:42:03] Speaker A: All right, so to kick off the main event for UFC Vegas 81, we have Sadiq Yusuf in the featherweight division taking on the legend Edson Barboza.
These two guys have tons of combined experience, but Barboza's just got years under his belt.
[00:42:21] Speaker B: Been in the UFC since 2010.
[00:42:24] Speaker A: I think I was a junior sophomore in high school. Nuts.
[00:42:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it is crazy. He's an exciting fighter, as you said, a legend. I think he's one of the more entertaining fighters to watch because he's such a good kickboxer and he's so good at striking. He's also, for being 37 years old, he's fucking ripped. He is crazy.
[00:42:42] Speaker A: I always not get weird looks, but it's like when I look at him like, how do you do that?
[00:42:49] Speaker B: It's crazy. And his last fight was a crazy knee knockout against Billy Q. So it looked like he kind of maybe found a little bit of his magic back.
[00:42:57] Speaker A: He found his mojo.
[00:42:58] Speaker B: His mojo.
[00:43:00] Speaker A: Age versus experience in this know you got Yusuf.
[00:43:04] Speaker B: Yusuf is coming off two straight wins.
[00:43:06] Speaker A: He is but he's younger, I think not the but he's younger. I think to the benefit of Barboza, the fact that he has more experience is actually going to give him the edge.
[00:43:17] Speaker B: Yusuf is six and one in the UFC, so it's not like he's new, but he hasn't fought in over a year. So I think, as you said, ring rust combined with experience. I'm picking Barbosa in the fight. I think it's going to be an exciting fight. I think it's going to be worthy action wise, of a main event, especially.
[00:43:34] Speaker A: I mean, a free fight.
I will be honest, after having no fights two weeks ago, I don't care who's fighting. I'm watching. Like, I was trying to go find like hobo fights around town or something to watch because I was just bored, dude.
[00:43:48] Speaker B: So you got Barboza too?
[00:43:50] Speaker A: I got edson. Barboza the legend. Keeping it on the grill.
[00:43:59] Speaker B: All right, so now let's move on to our weekly football segment where we cover the top college games and top pro games of the week. Just kind of throw the game out there, give you our picks and our quick thoughts. We're going to do five college, five pro again. And to start off, we're going to have go with the best ranked matchup of the week in college football. Two top ten teams. Two rivals. Number eight oregon. Number seven washington. Two teams with quarterback. Quarterbacks. Probably in the top ten of the Heisman rankings right now with Washington has Pinnocks and then Oregon has Bonix.
[00:44:35] Speaker A: Man, I almost corrected you there, but then I was like, I don't know enough about college to say whether or not he is wrong.
So good thing I didn't say you were wrong.
[00:44:45] Speaker B: Both teams, explosive offenses, cool uniforms. As I said, this is a rivalry game, so this is going to be an exciting game.
I usually am a big, giant Oregon fan and I still like them right now, but for some reason I like Washington's quarterback. I think Washington, this is their year in the Pac twelve. I think they get it done. So washington's my pick.
[00:45:06] Speaker A: So you pick Washington. So look, the Washington is at home, right?
[00:45:11] Speaker B: Washington's at home.
[00:45:12] Speaker A: So the Ducks are plus three going into Washington, plus 125 money line, the over under 67 and a half. That screams to me that it's going to be a high scoring matchup.
[00:45:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Both teams have explosive offenses.
[00:45:27] Speaker A: I think that Oregon is going to do what they've been doing and that's putting up points when they need to in their biggest contested game. I can't remember the exact matchup they still won, but it was like 38 to 30. I think they're going to do that here. I think it's going to be a close game, but I think they're going to just kind of win the shootout. I pick the ducks.
[00:45:49] Speaker B: All right, so the next one we're going to move on to is the rivalry game. USC, number ten, taking on number 21, Notre Dame. Notre Dame coming off of a disappointing loss against Louisville where they were the favorites, and they're taking on USC, who hasn't been the most impressive team, but they have maybe the most impressive player, one of them Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams, he's been carrying this team.
This is going to be an interesting game. It's at Notre Dame. As I said, this is another rivalry game.
I had a hard time with this one. I've been thinking a while about it. USC is plus 114. Notre Dame -125 something's telling me Caleb Williams, is going to come in and win this game for him. I don't think it's going to be pretty for USC. It's probably going to be pretty for him. I think USC figures out a way to get it done on the road. I have USC winning, so I don't.
[00:46:37] Speaker A: Know a lot about the the gameplay differences, I guess I should say I'm still figuring out the gameplay differences between college and know, how these spreads come about, how these wild overs and unders just happen every single week.
The defenses are well, there's so much.
[00:46:56] Speaker B: Variety in how teams play all across.
[00:46:58] Speaker A: The country, but defenses are just bad, man. We see that a lot with LSU this season. The Trojans are winning games, but they're winning games because they have to score 40, 50, 60 points to do that.
[00:47:11] Speaker B: They went to overtime against Arizona in.
[00:47:13] Speaker A: Their last win, and Arizona is not even that good.
I agree. I think USC is going to pull it out, but there is a reason that Notre Dame is favored at home. I think it's going to be a very tough matchup.
[00:47:26] Speaker B: It's also a reason USC's won.
Obviously, they're undefeated right now, but they've moved down in the rankings the last three weeks, right, because they've been so unimpressive.
[00:47:34] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like you're winning, but if Caleb Williams is the only person who can produce for the team or force.
[00:47:40] Speaker B: Production for the not the whole offense has production. It's the defense.
[00:47:45] Speaker A: Right, but what I'm saying is Caleb Williams is elevating those players and the.
[00:47:50] Speaker B: First round underwhelming, they have NFL talent all over the caleb Williams is good. The whole offense is good.
[00:47:55] Speaker A: So it's crazy to me that Notre Dame is still favored being five and two.
[00:47:59] Speaker B: They're at home, and this is a rivalry game.
[00:48:03] Speaker A: That's one of the.
[00:48:05] Speaker B: Schedule than USC.
[00:48:07] Speaker A: I don't agree with how the rankings and all that stuff works with the college, but I don't get to say so. I just got to live with it. You pick USC as well, right?
[00:48:17] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, so next game we're moving on to is another ranked matchup. It's an ACC matchup, number 25, miami coming off maybe the most embarrassing loss I've ever seen, dude, in my lifetime. They're taking on number twelve north carolina at north carolina north carolina the -180 favorite talk about that miami loss we got to go back to that because that was an absolute meltdown.
[00:48:42] Speaker A: Miami, Georgia Tech, 40 seconds left.
[00:48:45] Speaker B: No, there was ended up when the playroom was like 35 seconds.
[00:48:48] Speaker A: There you go, 35 seconds left.
[00:48:50] Speaker B: All they had to do was kneel the ball.
[00:48:52] Speaker A: They literally line up in victory formation.
[00:48:55] Speaker B: Georgia Tech had no timeouts. It's literally kneel the ball.
[00:48:57] Speaker A: They snapped the ball, fumbled it, and with no timeout.
[00:49:02] Speaker B: Georgia Tech went four plays, 75 yards in like 30 seconds with no timeouts.
[00:49:07] Speaker A: Got the score to win the game, upset Miami.
[00:49:12] Speaker B: Miami was undefeated previous to that. I mean, that was just one of those losses that has to kill you.
[00:49:18] Speaker A: That's on the coach, bro.
[00:49:19] Speaker B: It is on the coach. 100% on the coach. And it's one of those things. It's kind of like when a UFC fighter loses their first fight. How are they going to respond after that? Either they're going to be uninspired or they're going to come out with a vengeance. With a vengeance. I am leaning towards uninspired. Miami has notoriously underperformed over the past, like 20 years. North Carolina, they haven't exactly been performing great in that same span, but this year undefeated. Right now they have an NFL quarterback in Drake May.
He's projected possibly first round. I think North Carolina gets it done at home. I have the Tar Heels. Number twelve. Tar Heels getting a win.
[00:49:59] Speaker A: I actually think Miami is going to upset the Tar Heels here. I think they're going to do the exact opposite of what you think. I think they're going to come out with motivation because at the end of the day, the players don't have to hang their head and at least say that the loss was on them.
[00:50:15] Speaker B: Did you see? Well, yeah, they have no faith in your coaching staff. That's not good.
[00:50:18] Speaker A: Well, at least they have faith in themselves now.
[00:50:21] Speaker B: Do they? Why would that put faith in themselves?
[00:50:23] Speaker A: Because they didn't screw it up to.
[00:50:25] Speaker B: The guy that fumbled. Screwed it up and the defense screwed it up.
[00:50:28] Speaker A: Yeah, he probably is.
[00:50:30] Speaker B: They still screwed it up. The coach just shouldn't have put him in that position.
[00:50:33] Speaker A: I don't understand why if you're the quarterback there, you don't just nah, we're going to kneel it because I understand, like, this is what you should do. I don't care if I'm getting benched.
[00:50:42] Speaker B: Yeah, just a bad look.
[00:50:45] Speaker A: But anywho, I picked Miami. You picked Tar Hill. So we got to go against each other for that pick. The next one we have are the UCLA Bruins, number 18, fighting coming out of the red corner, the Oregon State.
[00:50:58] Speaker B: Beavers, number 15, a Pac Twelve matchup for the last time.
[00:51:03] Speaker A: This is Pac Twelve for the last time. Not a matchup for the last time.
[00:51:07] Speaker B: Pac Twelve matchup for the last time. One team's moving to the Big Ten, one moving, staying in the Pac Twelve.
[00:51:12] Speaker A: Still blows my mind that they're going to be the Pac Two.
[00:51:15] Speaker B: They'll figure it out somehow. Neither team is known for their football programs, but they're both pretty good. UCLA has a young quarterback who's exciting but has made mistakes that have kept games close that shouldn't have been close. Just like last week against Washington State.
[00:51:29] Speaker A: Oregon State's quarterback last week accounted for five of the touchdowns. I would love to say his name. DJ. Ugale, I apologize. God, that's bad.
[00:51:40] Speaker B: He has a nickname that's easier to say. He was at Clemson and then transferred to Oregon State. He's been playing great.
I think this is going to be a great game. Oregon State has a great atmosphere. Hard place to play. I think they get it done. At home. They're -185 favorites I think they're the better. This is the second year in a row. They're good. I think they're the better team. UCLA is still learning how to be a good team.
I just think the experience of that I got the Beavers.
[00:52:08] Speaker A: I agree. I think the Beavers are going to win. I picked against them last week and I was wrong. So I think I'm going to ride with them this week. They're favored -185 like you said minus three and a half on the line. I think they get the job done. Oregon State for the win.
[00:52:27] Speaker B: All right. And the last college game is going to be number 22, LSU Tigers. Taking on the non ranked Auburn Tigers. SEC rivalry matchup.
LSU's offense right now, Jaden Daniels legitimately has the best stats in the nation at quarterback. He's outplaying everybody. The whole offense is outplaying everybody. They have one of the leading rushers in the SEC. But this defense is so goddamn awful, man.
[00:52:53] Speaker A: It's crazy, right? Similar to how bad USC's defense has been.
[00:52:56] Speaker B: Similar to how bad they did have a good second half against Missouri where they forced a couple turnovers. We'll see if they can at least they don't even have to be good if they were average. This team can beat pretty much anybody because of how good their offense is playing.
[00:53:09] Speaker A: Right. See, the problem is for me, I don't think it's going to happen the same way. But Ole Miss had no reason winning the game they did against LSU. Just like Auburn has no reason to.
[00:53:22] Speaker B: Cover but to cover. Yeah, because Ole Miss is a way better team than Auburn.
[00:53:25] Speaker A: I was giving a kind of edged comparison. Auburn has no reason to cover in this game, but I feel like they are somehow going to because of how bad LSU is.
[00:53:36] Speaker B: Eleven and a half eleven and a.
[00:53:38] Speaker A: Half with an over under of 60 and a half that's begging for another high scoring game.
[00:53:43] Speaker B: I'm going to say LSU win. Obviously, I'm saying LSU wins. It's going to be high scoring, but I think they cover, I'm going to say, like 48 34, right?
[00:53:50] Speaker A: It's not going to be another pretty win for LSU. I think they're going to move to five and two, dropping the Auburn Tigers to three and three. Another point for this week, by the way, this is the second week in a row we've had the Tigers versus the Tigers. So to me that's kind of weird and interesting, but I pick LSU as well. I think they're going to win, but I think Auburn is going to cover that eleven and a half because of how terrible LSU's defense has been.
[00:54:17] Speaker B: All right, so let's move on to our NFL picks this week. We picked five games, really. Just there wasn't a lot of great matchups, but we picked really some of the best teams and then a couple of our favorite teams, or one of our favorite teams. The first game we're going to cover is that favorite team. It's the Bengals at home against the Seahawks. Bengals coming off their best performance of the year, they beat the Cardinals. Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase seem to finally be on the same connection jamar just torched.
[00:54:45] Speaker A: I wrote down that Joe Burrow connected with jamar always open Chase.
[00:54:50] Speaker B: Did you see what he posted on social media?
[00:54:52] Speaker A: Was a 711.
[00:54:53] Speaker B: Just a 711. That's all it was.
[00:54:54] Speaker A: Well, I like, look, if you're going to talk shit in the press conference and look, say like, man, I'm sorry, but I'm always fucking open. Like, throw it to me. At least Joe Burrow hands you 19 targets.
Jamar Chase handled them. 15 receptions, 192 yards, three touchdowns, absolutely torched the Arizona Cardinals last week.
[00:55:18] Speaker B: And I think Seattle is a good team. I think they're three and one coming into this.
[00:55:22] Speaker A: Three and one coming in.
[00:55:23] Speaker B: You're right, three and one.
I just think the Bengals are I'm hoping this is where they turn their season around. They're two and three. They still have plenty of time. They're only one game back in their division. I have the Bengals winning at home. I think Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase continue their connection.
[00:55:38] Speaker A: I agree with you there. I think the Bengals are going to win. I think Gino Smith's been playing more like a game manager this season as opposed to his kind of like, breakout know, late breakout last season where it was just unexpected. He's playing more like a game manager. But the team's still going to get a bunch of wins this season. I think the Bengals are going to beat them. I think they're just going to continue to feed Chase the ball, especially with Higgins being injured, kind of just forces that pressure onto him. But that's also going to open up the run. Game or at least the checkdowns for different passing opportunities if you force the targets to chase. So I think Bengals win just like you.
[00:56:17] Speaker B: All right, so the next one we're going to cover is the 49 ers, undefeated 49 ers at the Cleveland Browns. It's always tough when the West Coast teams go that far east. I just think the 49 ers are probably the best team in the NFL as long as Brock Purdy is playing like he does. They have weapons on offense, great offensive line, a great defense. I mean, they had probably one of the most impressive performances of the season on Sunday night against the Cowboys. Dominated.
[00:56:44] Speaker A: Completely shut them down.
[00:56:45] Speaker B: Dominated Dak Prescott. Made DAC look horrible.
[00:56:48] Speaker A: Made Dak look like Zach Wilson. James Winston.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: Like Dak Prescott.
[00:56:54] Speaker A: Boom. Danny Dimes.
[00:56:57] Speaker B: So I think the 49 ers going to come in. I think they're going to give Watson a hard time. Deshaun Watson has not been playing well. I got the 49 ers winning on the road in Cleveland.
[00:57:07] Speaker A: So the San Francisco 49 ers are coming in favorited by six with an over under of only 37 and a half. So it screams that it's not going to be a very high scoring game. I think one of the things we can bank on, or at least I'm going to bank on, is CMC extending his historic touchdown streak. So I'm not even going to worry about it. It's happening. I think if the 49 ers stay healthy, this is the Super Bowl champions this year. I think Proc Purdy is just going to just as long as nobody debo stays healthy, iuke stays healthy.
CMC and Purdy both all they stay healthy. We're good. We got a Super Bowl out of the 49 ers. I think they're going to win, but I think the Browns are crafty enough to cover this six point spread.
[00:57:57] Speaker B: All right, so the next game we're going to look at is another one of the NFL's undefeated teams and probably best teams. The Philadelphia Eagles. Going to New York, taking on the jets. Usually they're in MetLife, taking on their rival, the Giants, this time taking on the jets. The jets coming off of a win against the Broncos to kind of maybe give Zach Wilson some confidence getting the dub. Philly has just been great this year.
[00:58:22] Speaker A: Right back to where they were.
[00:58:24] Speaker B: They're kind of just like the 49 ers were like they don't really have a weakness. Weapons on offense. They have a quarterback performing great.
[00:58:30] Speaker A: The only way to beat them is.
[00:58:31] Speaker B: To outplay them, and they have a sick defense.
I think it's clear in the NFC, the 49 ers and Eagles are the two best teams. I think Philly goes to New York. I think they get the win over the jets. Zach Wilson has not been playing bad the past couple of weeks. I think he continues not playing horrible, but I just think the better team wins yeah.
[00:58:49] Speaker A: I mean, when the Eagles are playing everybody and just trouncing them, not even letting anybody else show up for the game, they're playing with perfect form. Like you said, few close games, no weakness. Yeah, but nothing that made me feel like they were going to lose.
[00:59:06] Speaker B: I mean, they went to overtime with the Commanders.
[00:59:08] Speaker A: I just didn't feel like they were going to lose. It's a divisional game. Those are just tougher. Naturally, those teams, for whatever reason see, I don't understand that. A team that's obviously so much better, how does the division yeah, but the divisional games, it's just crazy that it can be that close when the teams.
[00:59:25] Speaker B: Are that far apart. Schemes and stuff.
[00:59:27] Speaker A: I agree. I think the Eagles are going to push their way to victory, and I don't have an issue with that play either. I think whatever. If you can't stop, I don't understand why stop complaining.
[00:59:38] Speaker B: I don't understand why everybody's complaining about it. So you both got the Eagles. Next one we're going to look at is the Detroit Lions. One of the most entertaining and surprising teams in the NFL, taking on another team that's kind of surprising to in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
It's two quarterbacks that everybody thought kind.
[00:59:54] Speaker A: Of they were done.
[00:59:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Somebody else's trash, I guess you would say jared Goff, he's come in and he looks great with the Lions, man. And then Baker Mayfield, he was definitely somebody people wrote off. And it's not like he's been playing.
[01:00:09] Speaker A: Like an he's not playing lights out, but he's playing great.
[01:00:12] Speaker B: He's playing great. And you can tell the team actually likes him.
[01:00:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:15] Speaker B: And as an honest, it's a good surprise. Good to see him doing well. I think everybody's going to be picking Detroit in this game because of how well they've been playing, but I just think there's something about going to Tampa. I think Tampa is a gritty team. I think they like, as we said, Baker Mayfield. I think they're going to play for him. I think the Bucks somehow, someway don't ask me how figure out a way to get a win over the Lions.
[01:00:37] Speaker A: So the Lions, man, they're a crazy team. With Hutchinson on the defense, they made the best trade they could have made with Jared Goff trading know, making that swap. It seemed initially that they lost that trade, too, with the Rams immediately going win a Super Bowl. But now it's starting to look like Detroit's had the last laugh. It seems like the system's starting to work better for golf.
[01:01:03] Speaker B: It worked for both teams because you can't say the Rams don't regret anything.
[01:01:06] Speaker A: No, I think both teams won the trade, but the last laugh goes to the Lions. You got a little bit better depth out of them. It's a cheaper it was it was easier to get a couple other pieces for them and they also weren't good, which gave them a couple picks or a better pick, I should say. I do think the Lions are going to come in here and win. I agree. The Bucs are gritty and they're a tough team, but I think the Lions just all around better offense, better defense. I don't think the Bucs are going to have what it takes here.
[01:01:38] Speaker B: All right. And the last football game we're going to cover is Sunday Night Football. This week, the Cowboys at the La chargers. This is one of those you don't know what with these two teams playing. These teams play crazy games where they can either blow teams out, get blown out, have crazy turnovers, crazy plays happen.
I think this is going to be a super entertaining game. And I think the Cowboys this is the kind of game the Cowboys are going to come in and win.
[01:02:02] Speaker A: I agree. I think the Cowboys are going to win here. They have a two point favorite with an over under a 50 and a half.
[01:02:08] Speaker B: There's definitely going to be more Cowboy fans in La than Charger fans.
[01:02:12] Speaker A: Dude. The chargers are weird. Justin Herbert can't catch a break. I think we were talking about this a few weeks ago and you kind of pointed out it's not that he can't catch a break. He's just not clutch.
[01:02:24] Speaker B: I like him. He had all the things you want a quarterback.
He doesn't know how to win games.
[01:02:30] Speaker A: It's weird. It's so weird because they're such a good team through and through. They have great run games.
[01:02:36] Speaker B: He was at Oregon in college and they were always good, but they never were like a great team.
[01:02:40] Speaker A: Yeah. So Mike Williams out for the rest of the year. Achilles injury a couple weeks ago. That hurts the Chargers offense playing against the Dallas defense that we have seen all season. Granted, I know they've only beaten the Patriots, the jets and the Giants, which still in it.
[01:03:02] Speaker B: I hate that argument because it's like it's the NFL. Every win counts the same.
[01:03:06] Speaker A: But those are just worse teams. They got blown out as soon as they face somebody like the 49 Ers. But I think Dallas is going to win here. I agree with you.
It's going to be a shit show of a game.
[01:03:20] Speaker B: I don't even think it's going to.
[01:03:21] Speaker A: Be a shit show.
[01:03:21] Speaker B: I just have no idea what it could be. The greatest game of all.
[01:03:24] Speaker A: I just I think the writings on the wall here for it to just be like a total combined, like six interception game, but also seven combined in the air touchdowns, I think it's just going to be a shit show.
I picked Dallas. Who do you have?
[01:03:42] Speaker B: I have Dallas as well.
[01:03:50] Speaker A: All right, so let's break down the standings for the bets and picks for the current season.
I went ten and five for my picks this past week. Christian went nine and six. We both got upset on Dawson, Texas, Notre Dame, the Bills and the Ravens. The only difference we had in picks there, I had Joaquin Buckley winning. You had Alex Morono. Turns out he was not the Great White. It was Buckley for the win. Betting wise, I did pretty good. Four and one. Christian, what'd you do?
[01:04:24] Speaker B: I did two and three. I lost Dawson moneyline, Murano moneyline, and Washington State moneyline. They lost to UCLA and I won 49. Ers, who dominated the Cowboys, as we.
[01:04:33] Speaker A: Talked about earlier, sheer domination.
[01:04:35] Speaker B: And I thought, bama, it was good value minus 135. And they came and they performed and they beat Texas A and M. So that was my second win.
[01:04:43] Speaker A: Nice. I went four and one. Like I said, I had Bill algio moneyline. I had Felipe Lyn's moneyline. That fight got canceled, so I ended up going with Bengals moneyline and they cashed there. Dober versus Glenn under. We got a knockout in the first round, so that was awesome.
I got the Wildcats and the Bulldogs over 47 and a half. They got that, I think, within the first few minutes of the third quarter. It was great. And I lost Missouri covering six and a half to LSU. I'm not even really mad about that one because LSU beat them by more than seven. So cool.
But overall, that moves us to pick wise. Christians at 73 46 and one, I'm 79 41, moving us to 35 wins, 24 losses, and two pushes for my bets. And Christian, you have won 32 bets and lost 29. We're both getting pretty close to even there, so we need to pick that up. Chat GPT had a fantastic week. Twelve and three in picks moves it to a total of 30 914 and.
[01:05:54] Speaker B: One or better than way better than us.
[01:05:56] Speaker A: Dude, we might have to start looking at that. That's getting pretty crazy.
[01:06:00] Speaker B: He's doing way better than us.
[01:06:01] Speaker A: So for picks and everything this week, just listen to everything we said before. That's going to give you a kind of live breakdown of our reasoning as to why we think such and such are going to win. What do you have for your UFC bets this week, Christian?
[01:06:16] Speaker B: So I did two UFC bets, three football bets. My two UFC bets are Maya Arugio, the over in that fight, Arujo, and then I have the under in Chavez de Silva.
[01:06:30] Speaker A: Not.
[01:06:30] Speaker B: Chavez. Chavez.
[01:06:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Chariz, I only have one UFC fight or one UFC bet this week. I ended up going with one UFC, two NCAA, and two NFL.
I was about to say, UFL. My UFC bet is Cameron Simon. He's plus 125 money line. I think it's great value. I think he's going to go to ten. And for college, I'm going to just jump right into it. I have the Oregon Ducks winning plus 125 money line as well. Also, the USC Trojans are plus 112 underdogs on the money line. So I'm taking just three plus money lines for my first three bets.
[01:07:17] Speaker B: I still have USC money line plus 114. And then I don't have Oregon. I have Oregon state. Moneyline. -185.
[01:07:26] Speaker A: That's the Beavers right.
[01:07:28] Speaker B: The Beavers. Nice taking on UCLA. And then my NFL bet. My one NFL bet is I have the Cincinnati Bengals moneyline -162 I hope.
[01:07:37] Speaker A: You hit that one man I took two NFL like I said I got the Lions versus bucks over 43 and a half at -110 I think this is going to be it's not going to be a very high scoring game, but I think we're going to get more than three touchdowns total each. And then my last bet is the San Francisco 49 ers, covering five and a half over the Browns. I think regardless of what I said previous, I'm doubling down on the 49 Ers. I think they're going to be the Super Bowl winners this year by just dominating everybody.
[01:08:14] Speaker B: Thanks for listening to episode 17 of Split Decision. Check us out next week when we recap UFC Vegas 81. Take a look ahead to UFC 294 and give you some of our football thoughts.
[01:08:28] Speaker A: Scratching.
Scratching it's. Ranch it with the winter scratch and wake up with.
