Episode Transcript
[00:00:08] Speaker A: Welcome back to Split decision. This week on episode 23, we're gonna recap UFC Vegas 82, brendan Allen versus Paul Craig from this past weekend. From there, we'll draft our top five Thanksgiving foods. Then we'll huddle up for rivalry week with some college football in week twelve of the NFL. And finally, we'll jump back into stakes and takes our betting segment, where we give you our best advice for this week's games. But first, don't forget to like and subscribe. And then head to Splitdecisionpod.com, where you'll find all of our recent podcasts videos. Top fives and more. Again. That's splitdecisionpod.com. All right, let's go ahead.
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[00:00:56] Speaker B: UFC Vegas 82 from this weekend. This was kind of an underrated card. There wasn't a lot of talk about it, but man, it overperformed. The hype, definitely. There were a lot of on the main card, some great finishes, some good competitive fights, entertaining fights. I don't think there was a boring one in the whole main card.
[00:01:13] Speaker A: No, there wasn't. In the entire card for UFC Vegas 82, I think there was only four or five decisions, and even some of.
[00:01:21] Speaker B: The decision ones, like Morales Matthews, it was an entertaining, striking fight.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: It was a great fight. A lot of grappling fights, which some casual fans may not like as much. But even the grappling fights in this.
[00:01:33] Speaker B: Fight were they were entertaining, grappling, highly contested, at least submission attempts and ground.
[00:01:38] Speaker A: Impound rolling kind of some looked like a spar. Not in the sense where they weren't trying, but in the sense where they were like kind of rolling together and stuff. Yeah, it was very interesting for the whole card.
[00:01:49] Speaker B: And then the main event kind of lived up to the hype, too. It was Brendan Allen taking on Paul Craig, the Louisiana man. Brendan Allen taking on the Scotman. The bear Jew. The bear Jew.
[00:02:01] Speaker A: Paul Craig.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: Scottish. Paul craig. This came in both guys.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: I think Scottman is right.
[00:02:08] Speaker B: I think it might be we'll live on it. Both sick ground games. You would think it would come when two guys with crazy ground games like this, it would come down to the hands, but no, it doesn't. Brendan Allen kind of just dominated Paul Craig on the ground.
[00:02:20] Speaker A: But in that, though, at least we didn't get too far into the third round. But in round one, he did dominate in striking when they were standing, but then also in the ground impound while Paul Craig let him have the back.
[00:02:36] Speaker B: Those were some after the first round in the corner, the look on Paul Craig's face, and like, coming in the second round, it looked like he concerned. He did not want to I don't want to say he didn't want to be there because I'm a big Paul Craig fan, but Brendan Allen kind of beat him up in that first round, and it was like, oh, shit. And then it was more of that in the second round ended up getting the choke. It's impressive when you can choke out Paul Craig.
[00:02:55] Speaker A: A guy like that, man, watching that choke, too, you could tell Paul Craig was doing everything in his power.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: You kind of see it in his face where he's like, oh, fuck, yeah.
[00:03:03] Speaker A: Then he tap, tap, tap, tap. He's like, all right, yeah, you got it. And Paul Craig, he's a stand up guy, number one.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: But Brendan Allen got up and kind of talked down and talked shit in his face, which Paul Craig, he didn't touch gloves or anything. So it's like, I like Paul Craig again, but if you're going to do that, you got to take that. And Paul Craig kind of just had to sat there.
[00:03:25] Speaker A: He does a respectful thing. At the end of the day, he takes his losses on the chin. He knows. I mean, that's kind of his whole not, you know, about how you hit. It's about how you get knocked down and can get back up a thousand.
[00:03:36] Speaker B: I'm still going to be a Paul Craig fan. I'm always going to root for the guy. I like him a lot. But, man, Brendan Allen, he's moving up the rankings. He looks like he could be a legit contender in this division. A sick ground game. He has the hands. He kind of is a well rounded guy. He's been in the UFC a while, so he has a lot of experience. So I'm excited to see where he goes from here.
[00:03:53] Speaker A: Right. He's definitely already a top ten middleweight. He called I think he has six.
[00:03:58] Speaker B: Wins in a row, which is like second or third most in the division.
[00:04:01] Speaker A: Wins in a row.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: I think it's second in the division.
[00:04:04] Speaker A: It's crazy. It's a lot of wins. So top options for him, I think marvin Vittori, Paula Costa, I would like to see Jared Cannonier. Any of those three, for me, would be top five options.
[00:04:15] Speaker B: Any of those. And that's like a step up, a little step up for him, where it would be like, all right, how legit are you?
[00:04:20] Speaker A: Right. It's a good shot where somebody like Vittori, who's a grappling connoisseur before we saw him striking with Adesanya or Whitaker or anybody, we saw Vittori as a submission artist that would give Brendan Allen a good striking, but also Robert Whitaker. Yeah, even Robert Whitaker off the loss to Duplexy coming back. He hasn't fought in a while. Josh Allen or not Josh Allen. This is not the NFL. Brennan allen didn't take any damage or not a lot of good in the fight.
[00:04:51] Speaker B: Very good. I mean, this is one you could turn around in, like three, four months.
[00:04:55] Speaker A: Fight in January, February easily, in my opinion. I'd be excited to see any of those options mentioned, but definitely top five is in his window. He was ten as Hermanson called him.
[00:05:08] Speaker B: Out, and he's like, dude, I called you out, and you didn't want to fight me.
[00:05:13] Speaker A: Because you were too good for me.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: Then he's like, now you've lost two out of three, and now you want to fight me after I'm winning? So he's like, no, I'll pass on that. I think Hermanson is one ahead of him. Like, at nine.
[00:05:22] Speaker A: Right. It's not worth it. I looked that up and it just isn't worth it. He called them out on Twitter. I don't see Brendan Allen taking that.
[00:05:30] Speaker B: I think, like you said, I think it's like a guy top five, maybe like maybe six, seven.
[00:05:36] Speaker A: But someone in that Whitaker cannonier, he's.
[00:05:40] Speaker B: Going to fight somebody where if he gets an impressive win, you could argue maybe a title.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: Absolutely.
All right. So then next we're going to go straight into the comain. That was Michael Morales versus Jake Matthews.
[00:05:53] Speaker B: Michael Morales has some of the cleanest striking. He's a fun guy to watch. Just, I have to agree on the feet.
[00:05:59] Speaker A: Paul Felder with his commentary. The dude was not sweaty deep into the fight.
[00:06:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Pretty much at the end of the second round, it was like he's finally like, he's breathing. I think he said he's glistening a little bit.
[00:06:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:10] Speaker B: It's like, finally see something on him.
[00:06:11] Speaker A: It's weird. That's the thought process that normally you go five minutes in and they're like, these guys are sweating their asses off. They're completely like, even if you're well conditioned, you're breathing heavy because it's a high octane moment. Michael Morales stayed cool, calm, and collective. But on the flip side, we saw how durable Jake Matthews was for the entire fight.
[00:06:33] Speaker B: Yeah, he stayed in it.
[00:06:35] Speaker A: It was heavy. ODS we thought he was going to win it early with a knockout.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: We thought he was going to it looked like first round, Morales was going to knock him out. Second round, he won the second round, too. But you'd say it was a little.
[00:06:46] Speaker A: More even, probably 9910 nine. You could argue that Jake Matthews could have won the second.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: I would say third round is the one you could most argue. He won the second.
[00:06:55] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:06:55] Speaker B: I think one scorecard had it 30 27 Morales. The other two had it 29 28, Morales.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:07:00] Speaker B: So I think I didn't look at the judges scorecard, but if I had to guess, you'd give the first two if you scored at 29 28. It was first two rounds to Morales, third round to Matthews. So credit to Matthews. He got stronger as the fight went on. But I don't think anybody watched that fight and thought Jake Matthews should have won.
[00:07:18] Speaker A: No, I don't believe so either. Jake Matthews. Matthews did? I'm thinking of the mashed potatoes.
He thought of moving forward. He stayed moving forward. The entire know, like I said, durability.
[00:07:32] Speaker B: He's a the. He's had a lot of UFC fights, especially compared to Michael Morales. Morales.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: So do you think Michael Morales deserves a top ten opponent next? He's four and o in the UFC. He's 16 and o total.
[00:07:47] Speaker B: I don't know, top ten, but I think definitely a ranked guy.
I would give him somebody like, 13 to 15.
[00:07:55] Speaker A: Okay. Yes. I didn't have a specific fighter lined up for, like, a top 50 because he's still new. Right. He has proving ground when he's still young, too.
[00:08:03] Speaker B: So they don't want to rush him in because you don't want to ruin because you had UFC and MMA, you can overcome losses, not like boxing, but if they have a chance to market this guy as an undefeated guy, undefeated, that's more marketable. So I think the UFC is always conscious about that. So I don't think you just throw him out there quite yet.
[00:08:23] Speaker A: But he's definitely, especially in the welterweight.
[00:08:25] Speaker B: Definitely moving up the ladder.
[00:08:27] Speaker A: Right. He should be fighting a ranked guy soon. Maybe his next fight, if not his next fight, once. If he moves to 17 and five and O in the UFC, I think at that point, they'd be forced.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Then you kind of got to pod. Kind of like what happened with Sean O'Malley, right? He just like, okay, we got to.
[00:08:47] Speaker A: Yeah, you can't feed him people.
[00:08:50] Speaker B: You can at first, but, like, at some point, you're like, how good is this dude?
[00:08:53] Speaker A: Right? Exactly.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: Figure it out. But yeah. So we move on to the now, the next fight, chase Hooper, Jordan Levitt. This total grappling match, I think it only lasted, like, three minutes.
[00:09:06] Speaker A: Yeah, it was the first round finish at three and a half minutes, something like that.
[00:09:09] Speaker B: It ended with a Chase Hooper choke submission. Submission over Jordan levitt. But this was a fight. Both guys like I said, it was a grappling match. Both guys grabbing legs, grabbing ankles. 58 seconds going for submissions. They were rolling. It was entertaining. Rolling, entertaining positioning. I mean, as a grappling match, that's about as entertaining as you can get.
[00:09:31] Speaker A: This fight had, like, four significant strikes.
[00:09:35] Speaker B: And it wasn't boring at all.
[00:09:36] Speaker A: No.
[00:09:36] Speaker B: Which is a crazy thing, which usually don't equate those two things together.
[00:09:41] Speaker A: I would say they had dynamic transitions on the ground that left me excited, and I would say it left the fans, whoever was in the apex, excited, because when you kind of know you're getting a grappling match a lot of times as a fan, and casual fans aren't the only ones. I do this the same. I think a fight might be boring. I don't want to see an all ground game fight. But tonight's card proved that they can still be electric. They can be high octane ground thrillers.
[00:10:13] Speaker B: And Chase Hooper finally ended his alternating win loss thing since he's been in UFC coming into this, he alternated win loss to a four and three record.
[00:10:23] Speaker A: That's why I picked Jordan Lebo, because he had done that.
[00:10:25] Speaker B: So for the first time in his UFC career, he gets two straight wins, which is a huge deal for him. Moves 13 and three overall. That's his fourth UFC finish, only his second Sub, which I found surprising, but a great win for him. This was two guys that I think whoever won kind of elevated themselves a little bit. Whoever loses, they're not in danger of getting cut by the UFC, but they're kind of in that gray area.
[00:10:49] Speaker A: Right. My only issue well, I guess I have two issues. One, Chase Hooper, after his win, he didn't really call anybody out, which I respect. But then he took 155. 155. That's my second issue. Hold on. The first issue is the call out to Francis Nganu.
Not really an issue. It's just you've. You've kind of surmounted the win loss thing. Call somebody out, man the next guy up. At least just take a shot.
They're not on good terms with the UFC.
[00:11:23] Speaker B: I was going to say I like Chase Hooper. I don't want to see him get we talked about how deadly this 155 division is.
[00:11:30] Speaker A: That's a problem. That's the biggest rank at all.
[00:11:32] Speaker B: I don't see any of these ranked guys where I go into that matchup, excited to watch Chase Hooper get.
[00:11:38] Speaker A: I mean, can you imagine that? Benoit St. Denis and Chase Hooper in the same division, near the same rank?
[00:11:46] Speaker B: Chandler no, but I'm saying Benoit St.
[00:11:48] Speaker A: Denis is near the same as an unranked professional.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: They're close in the rank denise ranked now.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: Yeah, he's like 1211.
But think of that.
[00:12:01] Speaker B: There's a huge difference between those guys.
[00:12:02] Speaker A: Jordan Levitt is in the same division, and that is just like it's. Wild. Dustin Poirier justin Gaethje charles Oliveira.
[00:12:10] Speaker B: Michael Chandler.
[00:12:11] Speaker A: Islam Makachev. Michael Chandler.
[00:12:13] Speaker B: Gregor.
[00:12:14] Speaker A: Right. I'm sorry.
[00:12:16] Speaker B: Dan Hooker.
[00:12:17] Speaker A: I'm sorry, but Chase Hooper, I'm going to need you move to Bantamweight, please. Yeah, I don't want you to die.
[00:12:24] Speaker B: I like Chase Hooper. Like I said, I'm glad he got the win.
I don't think it's going to be hard for him to compete at the top of this division.
[00:12:31] Speaker A: And he's young, so maybe he can just outlast them all, fill up.
[00:12:35] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:12:36] Speaker A: Wait until you retire. Or he might wait until they all retire.
[00:12:39] Speaker B: He's young, like you said, so he might just, as he gets older, move up and compete better. But that's the one division is one.
[00:12:47] Speaker A: Big concern with the lightweight division. We talk about it always. It's filled with monster strikers where somebody with a strong grappling game who's kind of small, like not small, but like Lanky frame.
[00:12:59] Speaker B: All you need is a crazy Islam. Look at him. He's killing these dudes.
[00:13:03] Speaker A: Right? But he's built the right way. Chase Hooper's too small, it seems.
[00:13:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:09] Speaker A: He doesn't have the striking power where Islam could stand if he needs to, to get you on the ground.
[00:13:15] Speaker B: True.
[00:13:15] Speaker A: That's the big issue there. Maybe move down.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: He just needs to be I don't think it's that he's not big enough. He just needs to get his striking better. Yeah, well, then Islam wasn't that good at striking. And then now he's knocking out Volcano.
[00:13:28] Speaker A: That's True. That's true. You're Right. Yeah. Work on your striking. Become a killer in your own right. Do the Sean O'Malley thing and chase Hooper. You can make it in the 150.
[00:13:38] Speaker B: Become a killer striker. He just needs to be adequate where he can stand on the feet, compete with people, and then be like, and I have this killer ground game.
[00:13:46] Speaker A: Speaking of killer strikers Peyton Talbot, who.
[00:13:52] Speaker B: Apparently have developed a killer ground game?
[00:13:54] Speaker A: I don't know. I wouldn't say killer, but good enough. Good Enough. Because in the first round, nick Aguirre really kind of had him. I think Nick Aguirre really won the first round. I think so, too, after the takedown. Kind of forcing him onto the ground.
[00:14:06] Speaker B: But what I liked was Talbot. After that.
[00:14:08] Speaker A: They even breaking the stick in the third round.
[00:14:11] Speaker B: Well, they even talked about it in the or metaphorically commentary, where they were like, in that second round, he was like, you know what? I gotta be the Aggressor. I can't let him pick and choose when to take me down. So he was the aggressor. And once he started piecing up Aguirre, that dude showed. What to know?
[00:14:29] Speaker A: Business.
[00:14:29] Speaker B: Aguirre didn't know what to do. He kept trying to pull guard.
Talbot looked like angry man out there, and he really he looked frustrated. You're right after that first round that I think he lost to, he really turned it on and he went to another gear that Aguirre just didn't have.
[00:14:46] Speaker A: He got his first career submission after a resilient attack from Know. He won the second round. Kept it more striking.
I would say. Hurt Nick Aguirre even if he didn't visibly stumble him. But it showed that Nick Aguirre didn't want any business with the striking.
[00:15:05] Speaker B: That's a good debut for is your debut performance for Talbot. I mean, that's exactly what you want, little Adversity. But you responded so well.
[00:15:16] Speaker A: And then you got, your know, like you said, first career submission.
He only called for a striker in his next opponent because he wants to show off his striking skills.
[00:15:27] Speaker B: I understand wanting because he's not ready to move.
[00:15:31] Speaker A: When you go after a ladder submission guy, and then you submit him, and you're not a submission guy. I think you deserve a striker.
[00:15:36] Speaker B: And he's not ready to climb the ladder yet. So, yeah. Build this dude up.
[00:15:40] Speaker A: Yeah he Was favorable came in as a -900 favorite and he won by something that he's never Won by I.
[00:15:47] Speaker B: Think it's it Was An Impressive Performance. Like, I want to see that guy fight again.
[00:15:50] Speaker A: Right? Hype train him for sure. Build him up. Take your time with him. This is one of those guys. It's 135 pounds. Bantam weight is not like for the pickens, per se, but it's got some interesting things going on. You got Peyton Talbot showing up, showing that he can do things. High level striker already.
[00:16:10] Speaker B: It's crazy that since he's been in, because he won his first five fights, ko, right? UFC contender series. A unanimous decision, his first decision, and then his first UFC fight, a Sub. So he came in as a Ko guy and his first two wins non Kos.
[00:16:27] Speaker A: I know. My whole thing was that before the fight, I was sitting there that Peyton Talbot just strikes so often. I was saying he strikes like 9.73 strikes per minute is what the note said, which I believe I said, that it was very high. Like it was up there with some of the highest strikers I've seen since we've been covering it. And then he goes and submits a guy.
[00:16:50] Speaker B: First time Aguir has been finished, too.
[00:16:52] Speaker A: It's interesting that maybe Peyton Talbot's just been hiding a whole part of his game.
[00:16:56] Speaker B: Like he said, I think he's only 25 years old. He's just improving. He's sliding more, getting more experience.
[00:17:02] Speaker A: Like we said, hype train the guy.
[00:17:05] Speaker B: So we're going to move on to the next fight. This is maybe the most entertaining fight of the card, which is surprising. Coming in. Amanda reebos luana Pinhero. Apparently these two girls used to live together.
[00:17:17] Speaker A: Yeah, they were roommates. Roommates partners.
[00:17:19] Speaker B: And it said all the memes online were like it looked like Pinero left the dishes out, didn't put her dishes up. And Amanda Reebos was.
[00:17:29] Speaker A: We not we bet we picked different on this when you picked Reebos. I picked panero. And at the end of the first round, I was like, Bro, you were looking good.
[00:17:37] Speaker B: Panero was looking good.
[00:17:39] Speaker A: Especially after our first Medique losing. But I was like, all right, we got this. Panero, like, first round win for Panero, for sure.
[00:17:48] Speaker B: Reeboks found something in her mind. I was like, this bitch left the dishes.
[00:17:52] Speaker A: She didn't vacuum on Wednesday like she was supposed to. Or let's talk about the cardinal sin. What if they stole a boyfriend? Let's say Luana stole Reebos's date.
[00:18:03] Speaker B: Or didn't pay rent.
[00:18:04] Speaker A: Or didn't pay rent.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: Left it up to the other, and it's like, Boop. That's what it looked like. Because Reebos turned on another gear. She was 2nd, 3rd round, piecing Panhero up. I mean, I don't think a lot of people thought Reebos was going to come in and knock Panero out and get the TKO finish.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: No, definitely. That was probably like the I think decision was probably the method of victory. They probably expected an over.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: But Panhero was getting pieced up. And then was it a head kick? That kind of it was a head.
[00:18:36] Speaker A: Kick that stumbled her.
[00:18:38] Speaker B: Once the head kicked was she was out of time.
[00:18:42] Speaker A: You could see it.
[00:18:42] Speaker B: Hit her a few times, got her on the ground.
A very impressive performance from Amanda Reebos.
[00:18:49] Speaker A: Stunning wheel kick, I think is what we could call it.
Force the stoppage.
[00:18:54] Speaker B: Good way for Reebos to rebound after a loss. Seven and three now in the UFC.
[00:18:59] Speaker A: She also got a 50K performance bonus. A few other people got performance bonuses. They didn't do a fight of the night. They just did a bunch of performance.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: Like I said, that was one of the best. It was entertaining fights. I mean, it was a great striking match. And props their man to reboss.
[00:19:14] Speaker A: Absolutely. So the opening of the main card was a late last minute scheduling. Johnny Parsons was out with an injury, so we filled in with Mick Tobic, Orobi welterweight.
[00:19:30] Speaker B: Kurzik Stanney.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: He was in his UFC debut. It looked like he was on his Earth debut.
[00:19:37] Speaker B: It did, but I didn't realize, as crazy as he looks, as prehistoric as this guy looks, he is in the Hun Uriah Faber's gym. That's where he fights at.
[00:19:53] Speaker A: Right.
[00:19:53] Speaker B: So it's like, okay.
[00:19:54] Speaker A: They found him underneath it when they.
[00:19:56] Speaker B: Built it, apparently, because this dude came in medic.
It looked like Medic did not prepare at all for any kind of grappling exchange. I think him and Johnny Parsons were planning to just duke it out on the feet.
[00:20:09] Speaker A: Yeah, he was just trying to knock somebody out real quick.
[00:20:12] Speaker B: He came in with four career subs. He identified the weakness right away in the first round. Took him down in that first round. It was one of those where he beat Medic so bad on the ground. Every time Medic tried to get up, he was just slamming him back.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:28] Speaker B: It was like, dude, this is kind of helpless that he can't do anything on the ground.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: Orobi looks like the guy where if you let somebody act like they were a UFC fighter for Halloween, that would be the picture that the UFC actually used for this dude's profile picture.
This guy seemed like he came in unprepared, but he opened as a favorite on the cards.
[00:20:52] Speaker B: Yeah, ten day notice. And I mean, Vegas knew something.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: He said, Sorry, I could only cut to 170. I'll come back at lightweight post fight.
[00:21:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, Vegas knew something, like I just said, because from the get go, once he got he got hit a couple of times on the feet, but once he got a hold of Medic, it was over. And then he ended up getting a sub in the second round.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: Right. I would say complete domination through both rounds. And he won by no it was no typical submission. It was neck crank.
[00:21:23] Speaker B: Neck crank, which, you know yeah, but dude, if you go watch that, he was, like, twisting that dude.
[00:21:28] Speaker A: Right. He was yanking him and contouring him, like, two different directions.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: It was also he's from the same area as not Khabib, and them are from Dagestan, but like, that Central Asian area. He's from Kurzakhstan. So he also has a cool cultural hat that he wears.
[00:21:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it was wild.
[00:21:48] Speaker B: I've never seen a hat like that, but it's pretty cool.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: I've seen some, just not that color.
[00:21:53] Speaker B: It was sick. And I think that's a dude. Nobody's going to be calling out.
[00:21:58] Speaker A: Nobody wants to fight that dude. Wait a minute. Can you imagine this? This dude debuted in 170, but he said he plans on fighting at 155.
[00:22:05] Speaker B: I mean, he would fit right in, I think.
[00:22:07] Speaker A: Can you imagine him fighting Chase Hooper? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about here. It's like, I don't know that dude.
[00:22:15] Speaker B: It's different people.
He's a mongol neanderthal.
That dude's scary. Nobody's calling that dude. Nobody wants to fight that dude.
[00:22:26] Speaker A: I don't want to interview him.
I only want to see him fight from afar. I don't ever want to be in his radar at all. I don't want him to know my name.
[00:22:43] Speaker B: All right, so this week for a top five, I think it's pretty obvious what we're going with. It's Thanksgiving week. We're going to go top five best Portuguese.
[00:22:52] Speaker A: No, I'm kidding.
[00:22:53] Speaker B: Top five Thanksgiving foods. Sure. You could have guessed it. This is one might be controversial to some people, I think. Why?
I just think this is something people have strong opinions on for some reason.
[00:23:07] Speaker A: Oh, wait, sorry. I thought my bad. I thought you were talking about your first pick.
[00:23:11] Speaker B: I think my first pick will be controversial, but I think just in general, this is going to be a list of things. No matter what happens, some people are strongly going to disagree with her.
[00:23:22] Speaker A: Yeah. There are what you would call crazy people. I get it.
[00:23:27] Speaker B: And this might be a crazy pick. I think there's an obvious one, one that everybody would think of when they think of Thanksgiving food. But I'm not taking that one. I think I'm actually going with as the first pick in the draft since it is my time to go first.
[00:23:39] Speaker A: Congratulations.
[00:23:41] Speaker B: I'm going with a Thanksgiving ham specifically. Like that spiral honey baked ham with the outside of sweet.
I think that is such superior over the other obvious protein. When you think of Thanksgiving, I mean, it's good. There's a little bit of sweetness to it. It goes with everything.
It's juicier. Have you ever had a dry ham, man? Ham is good. I love a ham specifically at Thanksgiving time. I think it's the best food you can have at Thanksgiving. I'm going with the ham specifically the spiral honey baked ham.
[00:24:18] Speaker A: Ham.
Ham is great, bro.
I feel like they only put the good hams out on Thanksgiving only, but.
[00:24:27] Speaker B: I think that's when they prime them, I think you can get them all the time.
[00:24:31] Speaker A: You got to ask for them, though.
[00:24:32] Speaker B: You got to ask for them. They're just not like or you got.
[00:24:34] Speaker A: To go to a place.
[00:24:35] Speaker B: They just know this is the prom tom season for them.
[00:24:38] Speaker A: Like, hey, take three lefts and then four rights and you'll be there and ask for a guy name.
[00:24:44] Speaker B: You'll be my ham plug.
[00:24:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I need a ham plug year round. But no, ham is definitely an elite pick.
It is one of the top meats of the Thanksgiving department.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: I mean, there's not many meats of Thanksgiving.
[00:25:00] Speaker A: Oh, sir, you live in Louisiana. There's many a meat for Thanksgiving for the crazy people we have around here. So your number one's ham, I think I'm going to man, I have to go with mashed potatoes and gravy for my number one.
[00:25:16] Speaker B: I mean, that's a solid pick.
[00:25:17] Speaker A: Too solid pick. It's a catch all.
It's probably the perfect side, in my opinion.
And, I mean, it's making me salivate right here just talking about it. I don't even know. Mashed potatoes and gravy. Brown gravy. Right. That's what I'm thinking.
[00:25:35] Speaker B: I like brown gravy. I'm not opposed to white gravy, though.
[00:25:38] Speaker A: I am heavily opposed to white gravy.
[00:25:41] Speaker B: Chicken fried steak gravy.
[00:25:42] Speaker A: That's so yeah, no, disgusting. I'm out. Mashed potatoes and brown gravy. I'll dictate that.
Okay.
[00:25:49] Speaker B: Not a bad pick. Not a bad pick.
[00:25:51] Speaker A: Second pick is going to be.
[00:25:55] Speaker B: The.
[00:25:55] Speaker A: Homemade bread that people make on Thanksgiving. You know what I'm talking about? Like roll. Dinner rolls.
[00:26:00] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:26:00] Speaker A: Roll.
[00:26:00] Speaker B: I had that on my list.
[00:26:01] Speaker A: Like dinner rolls. Yeah, I'm going to go with dinner rolls.
[00:26:03] Speaker B: That's a good pick.
[00:26:04] Speaker A: As my number two.
[00:26:06] Speaker B: It's a good pick. Dinner rolls, because I like the dinner rolls and you just dip them in all the different kind of casseroles.
[00:26:12] Speaker A: Right. The dinner roll is the chip to the salsa.
[00:26:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
In the Thanksgiving scenario, man, chip because it's way better than the chip.
[00:26:22] Speaker A: It's way better. And realistically, if you go to a family dinner, how often are you getting rolls? A lot of times it's going to be Thanksgiving or Texas Roadhouse or, like, a place that serves a good roll.
[00:26:34] Speaker B: Slaps, especially if it has some kind of, like butter. Butter? Some kind of moisture.
[00:26:38] Speaker A: Right.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: You know what I mean?
[00:26:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Some sort of flavor. Not even flavor, but makes it better. It's perfect. Get a good crust on that roll.
[00:26:45] Speaker B: No, rolls is a great pick. I had that on my list. That was going to be a very high pick on my list.
[00:26:49] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. I got to take the good things as I can, so I'm going to go with dinner rolls. What do you have for your second pick? Because with a ham to start, my.
[00:26:58] Speaker B: Number two is I'm not building a meal. I'm just picking the best.
[00:27:03] Speaker A: Yeah, we're not going to eat this now.
[00:27:05] Speaker B: So my number two is going to be the obvious pick. I'm going turkey.
[00:27:08] Speaker A: Right. I knowingly left that on the board, trying to pick actual better foods than that.
[00:27:14] Speaker B: I just think yeah.
I mean, Thanksgiving is turkey.
[00:27:18] Speaker A: Do you think that what you think.
[00:27:19] Speaker B: Of they part in turkeys? I mean, that is what the traditional.
[00:27:23] Speaker A: So do you actually like turkey?
[00:27:25] Speaker B: I do. A turkey leg is great.
[00:27:27] Speaker A: How often do people poorly cook turkey? That changes your perception.
[00:27:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, any of these things can be poorly. Made a turkey.
[00:27:36] Speaker A: Are you not saying crime truths because somebody in your family doesn't cook a good turkey?
[00:27:41] Speaker B: My family cooks a great turkey. My dad does an airless fryer turkey.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: Oh, is that cool?
[00:27:47] Speaker B: It's very good.
[00:27:48] Speaker A: I'd be interested to try that very good.
[00:27:52] Speaker B: I like turkey, especially a good turkey leg. Getting a turkey leg, I think turkey.
[00:27:56] Speaker A: Thanksgiving and carnivals, that's the only two places you can get. Yeah.
[00:27:59] Speaker B: I would pick ham over turkey, but I think turkey is like it's the centerpiece of Thanksgiving.
[00:28:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it definitely is a top Thanksgiving thought. It's the low hanging fruit of Thanksgiving. If you're thinking of I wouldn't call that.
[00:28:15] Speaker B: I would call it, like, the biggest freshest fruit that everybody wants. That's the one that is no, that.
[00:28:21] Speaker A: Would be ham, sir.
[00:28:22] Speaker B: No, that's like the niche fruit that they're like. Oh, yeah, that's very good. You got to be a hipster to kind of like it more.
[00:28:29] Speaker A: But, man, you're just denying your whole list. What's your third pick?
[00:28:34] Speaker B: No, I'm giving support to my whole list.
[00:28:37] Speaker A: Okay, sure. Yeah.
[00:28:39] Speaker B: My third pick this was a tough one. This is when it starts getting into really kind of like, what you prefer.
[00:28:46] Speaker A: I don't know if it does.
[00:28:48] Speaker B: My third pick is going to be rice dressing.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: Okay, that's solid.
[00:28:52] Speaker B: I think a good rice dressing, if you have turkey or you have ham, a good rice dressing or you have.
[00:28:59] Speaker A: A roll or mashed potatoes or mashed potatoes, you dip.
[00:29:01] Speaker B: It Thanksgiving food.
[00:29:04] Speaker A: You just mix it all together. I love it's.
[00:29:06] Speaker B: A plate just mixed of everything. And rice dressing is like rice dressing is I would say the mashed potatoes is the paste, but the rice dressing is like the glue, the concrete. I don't know. The rice dressing is a must. A good rice dressing just sets your whole Thanksgiving meal to another level because it's kind of like the base.
[00:29:26] Speaker A: It's either a rice dressing or a stuffing. Right. It's something with another carb that's not a mashed potato. Yes, I get it.
[00:29:34] Speaker B: So rice dressing is my number three pick.
[00:29:36] Speaker A: That's a solid one. Rice dressing is a very solid pick, but I think for my number three, I'm going to go with another side. I've already got the mashed potatoes and brown gravy, and I've got dinner rolls. I think I'm going to go with a mac and cheese.
[00:29:51] Speaker B: That is a good one. I didn't have it on my list. I don't know how I left it.
[00:29:54] Speaker A: Off, but that's a great I didn't have rice dressing on my list because I just wasn't thinking about it like that. But I think mac and cheese is a very solid pick just because it's that other carb.
When somebody makes a good homemade mac and cheese, we're not talking craft. We're talking a Thanksgiving mac and cheese. The only time of the year where people actually care about the meal they're making or at least act like they care about it because they have to present it to other family members, not just their eight year old.
The mac and cheese gets better. It's almost like Chick fil A made it half the time.
[00:30:28] Speaker B: Mac and cheese is a solid pick. It's hard to fuck up mac and.
[00:30:31] Speaker A: Cheese in my house when I bring mac and cheese to an event. It is actually from Chick fil A. I just cater it because I'm not trying to buy make. They make it better than I could anyway.
[00:30:43] Speaker B: No, I get that you're just lazy, but I get it.
[00:30:46] Speaker A: Yeah, but I care enough.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: But mac and cheese, that's a good pick. That's your third pick.
[00:30:50] Speaker A: Third pick is mac and cheese. My fourth pick is going to be the turduccan.
[00:30:56] Speaker B: I mean, that's not a Thanksgiving food.
[00:30:58] Speaker A: That is 100% a Thanksgiving food around here.
[00:31:01] Speaker B: Have you ever had a Turduckin? Yeah.
How many times?
[00:31:05] Speaker A: Three all around Thanksgiving, sir.
It's a turkey with a duck breast shoved in it.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: I think now we're just, like, making shit up. I know it's a real thing, but.
[00:31:16] Speaker A: Like yeah, but I'm not making it up. Somebody made it up long before me.
[00:31:20] Speaker B: That's not a traditional.
[00:31:23] Speaker A: Are you vetoing my pick?
[00:31:24] Speaker B: I'm not vetoing, I'm letting you pick it. But, like, what are we doing here?
[00:31:28] Speaker A: That's it.
[00:31:29] Speaker B: There's plenty of Thanksgiving foods on the table that aren't Turducken.
[00:31:35] Speaker A: Turducken.
[00:31:36] Speaker B: Is it Frankenstein? That's what it is.
[00:31:38] Speaker A: It's a monster. For real.
It is a high quality.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: It's got to be the most, like, gluttonous entrepreneur you can think of. This is stuff. Something in another thing and then in another.
[00:31:52] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:31:53] Speaker B: They're all birds.
[00:31:54] Speaker A: Have you ever seen that meme where it's like the man saying that milk milk is like you can drink milk out of a cow for the first time. They, like, walk in on the barn and he's like, under the cow. He's like, you all should try this. They're like, whoa. Yeah.
[00:32:11] Speaker B: That dude's a weirdo.
[00:32:12] Speaker A: Imagine the guy, the first dude who thought of putting a turkey and then sticking a duck inside of the turkey and sticking a chicken inside of the duck inside of the turkey.
[00:32:21] Speaker B: It's just so gluttonous. That's why Thanksgiving are very good on their own.
[00:32:26] Speaker A: Thanksgiving is a gluttonous meal, is it not?
[00:32:29] Speaker B: It is, but that's just, like, over the top. That's just like a slap to the face gluttonous. You're not even pretending a Turduccan is a so. That's your number four.
[00:32:39] Speaker A: My number four is a turduccan, sir. Nothing you can do to combat that.
[00:32:45] Speaker B: My number four is going to be a classic side green bean casserole.
[00:32:49] Speaker A: I got that on the list.
[00:32:50] Speaker B: I mean, it's so good with a little almost kind of like, crumb topping to it.
[00:32:57] Speaker A: Nowadays in the store, they sell the green bean casserole toppings to put on the green bean casserole to make it crunchy.
[00:33:06] Speaker B: It's either breadcrumbs or it's like dried onions.
[00:33:08] Speaker A: Like dried french onions or something like that.
[00:33:10] Speaker B: And it's good as fuck.
[00:33:11] Speaker A: No, it is. Yeah.
[00:33:12] Speaker B: Absolutely is, too.
[00:33:13] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:33:13] Speaker B: By the way. But green bean casserole, I think it's a classic thing. A lot of people like it.
It's actually a way that makes green beans taste really good.
[00:33:22] Speaker A: Right. Otherwise, they're just kind of meh.
[00:33:25] Speaker B: There are some restaurants that have them, but I found the only restaurants I like that have just plain green beans that I end up liking as a side are when they're cooked in, like, bacon fat and bacon grease. Right.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: And then at that point, it's like pigment doing more harm than it's good.
[00:33:37] Speaker B: But a green bean casserole hits. As you said earlier, you mentioned how your Thanksgiving plate kind of becomes a mix of everything. This is a solid thing to throw into the mix. The green bean casserole.
[00:33:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
If the mashed potatoes and gravy are the paste, the green bean casserole is certainly the most it's like the first.
[00:33:57] Speaker B: Green thing you get a little bit of vegetable.
[00:34:00] Speaker A: Yeah. It's the only thing that's keeping your heart pumping at the end of Thanksgiving is that 1oz of green beans you had. That's what's keeping you going.
That's a solid fourth pick. What is your fifth pick, sir?
[00:34:12] Speaker B: My fifth one? This is where I'm going real personal. It's still a traditional thing, but it's just something I really like. It's the cranberry sauce.
[00:34:20] Speaker A: I have that on my list.
[00:34:21] Speaker B: I love the cranberry sauce. That's what makes a turkey over the top with a little bit of cranberry sauce. And as we've mentioned, like on three other four other picks I just mentioned in my last pick, the cranberry sauce in the mix of the Thanksgiving plate is elite.
[00:34:37] Speaker A: You know how they have those people that don't want their food to touch?
[00:34:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:40] Speaker A: That's what do they do on Thanksgiving? Because Thanksgiving is made at home and cry.
[00:34:46] Speaker B: You don't make eight sides where they don't touch.
[00:34:50] Speaker A: I want my gravy mixing into the other things that I normally don't want them to mix into. I have dessert on that same plate sometimes.
[00:34:58] Speaker B: Yeah. There's just something about all those tastes together.
[00:35:01] Speaker A: Something about that Thanksgiving nap.
[00:35:03] Speaker B: Cranberry sauce is like, one of the few sweet things in here where it's going to be like, whoa. It just grates mix. I love it on the turkey. I love a cranberry sauce.
[00:35:14] Speaker A: That's a solid pick. So my fifth and final pick, I think I'm going to go, man, I've got to go with cornbread dressing.
[00:35:26] Speaker B: I had that on my list.
I was debating on that for my number five.
[00:35:30] Speaker A: I was thinking when you took rice dressing, they kind of left it up there for me. Cornbread dressing is the it's really the only second to rice dressing. If you don't have rice dressing, you can substitute in a cornbread dressing. It's two great things, dressing and cornbread mixed together. It's amazing. Cornbread dressing, you can use it as stuffing. A lot of people do that. So then it kind of got a dual pick there. Put it in the turkey.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: It's always good.
[00:35:58] Speaker A: Put it in the turduckin. Even if you want to be like.
[00:36:01] Speaker B: Crazy stuffing, stuff the turduckin animals that already stuffed together, we're going to stuff them with rice and another meat mixed in there.
[00:36:09] Speaker A: I know this feels like the casting couch. It's crazy. So, yeah, I'm going to go with cornbread dressing for my final pick.
[00:36:16] Speaker B: You know what's surprising? Neither of us took any desserts, which there are a few desserts I had on my list.
[00:36:21] Speaker A: What do you have on your list for desserts?
[00:36:22] Speaker B: I had pecan pie, pumpkin pie, sweet potato.
[00:36:26] Speaker A: I got pumpkin sweet potato. I got fruit salad, candy dams, apple pie.
[00:36:31] Speaker B: Yeah, like, all those things, they were definitely in the play.
[00:36:33] Speaker A: Seriously, I think any time of my life when I'm going to eat a pie, probably the only time I'm going to get it is Thanksgiving.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: Just like my mom. Last week, I asked specifically, she made me a pie, a chocolate pudding pie.
[00:36:47] Speaker A: Oh, that's different. Dude, it was so different. That's different.
[00:36:51] Speaker B: That's pie. So, my top five Thanksgiving foods to go over them again. Number one, ham. Number two, turkey. Number three, rice dressing. Number four, green bean casserole. And to top it off, number five, cranberry sauce.
[00:37:06] Speaker A: That's a solid top five. And mine are number one, mashed potatoes and gravy. Two, dinner rolls. Three, mac and cheese. Four, the gluttonous turduckin. And five, cornbread dressing down.
[00:37:26] Speaker B: See?
[00:37:27] Speaker A: Hit.
[00:37:28] Speaker B: All right, let's jump into football for this week, maybe the biggest week in college football for the year. It's the last week of the regular season, rivalry week.
[00:37:37] Speaker A: Rivalry week.
[00:37:38] Speaker B: This is when you can almost throw out records. You can almost throw out rankings. These teams always play each other. Not always, but usually it's close games, and I'm excited games, tough games, instate games, just pure hate games.
[00:37:54] Speaker A: Games that make the coaches say, guys, y'all got to chill a little bit.
[00:37:58] Speaker B: Games that make the fans like, there's a chance, like giant fights in these games. Kind of like Brazil, Argentina we just watched.
[00:38:06] Speaker A: Man, I got robbery like that.
[00:38:08] Speaker B: But the first game we're going to.
[00:38:09] Speaker A: Nightstick I've ever seen.
Right?
[00:38:13] Speaker B: So I think swinging a sword made.
[00:38:16] Speaker A: Out of just metal.
[00:38:18] Speaker B: There's no UFC this coming week.
[00:38:21] Speaker A: It was wild.
[00:38:23] Speaker B: Sorry, no UFC this coming week. So we're going to do a couple more. Three more football games each in college and pro. So a total of eight each, 16.
[00:38:32] Speaker A: Games, one week, winner take all.
[00:38:36] Speaker B: So the first game we're going to look at, we're going to start with college, is going to be Thursday night, Thanksgiving night, the Egg Bowl. The old Miss Rebels coming in ranked twelve, taking on the five and six arch rival Mississippi State Bulldogs. This is definitely one of those games where you can throw out the records. These teams play each other close pretty much every year and they really do not like each other.
[00:38:57] Speaker A: Yeah, look, Michigan or Michigan, mississippi State won the last time out 24 to 22. Both teams are all victories. I think the motivations are very high for both teams right now. Like you said, it's an egg bowl, high level rivalry.
[00:39:11] Speaker B: This is a chance for Ole Miss to get ten regular season wins for the first time in a long time.
[00:39:15] Speaker A: Is that Lane Kiffin the head coach?
[00:39:16] Speaker B: Lane Kiffin the head coach.
[00:39:18] Speaker A: I'm learning.
[00:39:19] Speaker B: He's always looking to jump. That's one thing about him.
[00:39:22] Speaker A: What do you mean always looking?
[00:39:24] Speaker B: Like physically every big time job that's going to open from here on out. He's going to be like the name they throw out there is Lane Kiffin in the run.
[00:39:33] Speaker A: He became a pretty big media personality this season, right.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: He's always been he was like the youngest in it. He was the Raiders head coach, like ten years ago.
[00:39:43] Speaker A: Right.
[00:39:43] Speaker B: But he was 35.
[00:39:44] Speaker A: So I actually looked at him today, he had like six total wins in two years or something like that.
[00:39:48] Speaker B: Yeah, it was like he definitely was too young to do it.
[00:39:52] Speaker A: And their team probably he was probably walking into a bad team already that he was trying to rebuild.
But outside of that he was ole missed for their offense.
[00:40:02] Speaker B: I mean, a great offense top.
[00:40:04] Speaker A: I mean, they're twelve ranked nationally.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: I mean, their only recent loss is just getting drumrolled by Georgia a couple of weeks ago, which I understand it's understandable right. At Georgia.
[00:40:15] Speaker A: I still think ole Miss wins. We have a 450 money line.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: -450 money line Mississippi state needs this to get to a bowl game. So if they lose, they're out of a bowl.
[00:40:24] Speaker A: I mean, five and six. Do teams get bowl games at losing records?
[00:40:27] Speaker B: No, you have to six wins to get a bowl that low. Six and six the minimum six and six SEC team would 100% get a bowl game.
[00:40:36] Speaker A: If my favorite college team was six and six, I wouldn't want to go to their bowl game. That would be disappointing.
[00:40:42] Speaker B: It depends what kind of program you are.
[00:40:44] Speaker A: Maybe. Anyway. Mississippi rebels not sorry. Ole Miss Rebels favored by eleven and a half over at 55 and a half. What do you think is going to happen for this one?
[00:40:55] Speaker B: The game's at Mississippi State, so I think it's going to be a close game. I don't know if I'm taking I found it at ten and a half. I don't know if I'm taking Ole Miss at ten and a half, but I think Ole Miss gets the win. They get their 10th victory of the year.
[00:41:06] Speaker A: I agree. I think the Rebels are going to win. I don't know.
I was going to come in here with some hot takes and everything, but I did not think about rivalry week being as contested because I am traditionally not as well versed in college football, so I'm going to just stave off of sounding like a jackass here and I'm just going to pick the Rebels and move forward.
[00:41:27] Speaker B: All right, so the next game we're going to look at not necessarily a rivalry game, but it's a huge game in terms of conference play. It's the eight and three, seven and O in the American Conference. Texas UTSA, University of Texas, San Antonio, taking on the 23rd ranked two lane Green Wave who come in ten and one, seven and on the American as well. This is a game winner, goes to the American Conference championship game. Two lane has a chance to move to eleven and one. They went to the, I believe it was the Cotton Bowl last year. They got to a big six. They have a chance to do it again this year. This is a huge game. Two teams that are winning a lot right now.
[00:42:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And two teams that really have no business being in the top 25. Like Tulane, they never hold a candle to Georgia. Right.
[00:42:16] Speaker B: Last year, they were top 15 team last year and they beat USC in the bowl game.
[00:42:21] Speaker A: This is like a ul type situation where they're just going to keep popping up in the rankings every so often.
They'll be better than we think.
[00:42:29] Speaker B: They're better than raging Cajuns have ever been, really? Two years.
[00:42:33] Speaker A: Awesome.
[00:42:34] Speaker B: Tulane is a legit team. UTSA is as well.
I think this is going to be a very close game. I think the game is in New Orleans, and I think that's going to be the deciding factor. I got the Green Wave winning, so.
[00:42:46] Speaker A: I have a couple of questions before I make my final determination. So Green Wave's defense is based on the stats, are only allowing 18.55 points per game. So just under 19 points a game.
[00:42:58] Speaker B: Really been playing well lately, especially on defense.
[00:43:02] Speaker A: But do you think Michael Pratt is going to handle the ball better? He threw two interceptions last week.
[00:43:08] Speaker B: He's a guy. He's a veteran guy. He's a senior. I think he hasn't been playing his best, but I think he's a guy that's with the experience is going to live up to the moment and step his game up. Being that this is and that would.
[00:43:20] Speaker A: Be a home game for Tulane.
[00:43:22] Speaker B: It is in New Orleans?
[00:43:23] Speaker A: Yes. Okay. So with all of that information, I'm also going to pick two lane. I'm going to double down. I know I told you before I was going with Tulane, but I wanted to confirm that. And yes, I definitely am going with Tulane.
[00:43:35] Speaker B: So we both got two lane now. Let's move on to the next game. That's. Also on Friday.
[00:43:39] Speaker A: Is that Oregon?
[00:43:40] Speaker B: This is the Civil War. This is Oregon. Oregon State. The last time they're scheduled to meet each other because Oregon is leaving the Pac Twelve to join the Big Ten.
[00:43:48] Speaker A: Do you think they're going to schedule that again in the future? These two teams have had like 50.
[00:43:52] Speaker B: Or something over 50, but you would think yes, but because of the school politics and the way the conference scheduling works, not necessarily Texas. Texas A and M haven't played since 2012 because of oh, damn.
[00:44:05] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:44:08] Speaker B: So this is going to be one a rivalry game that has a little bit extra juice to it. It's always a close game. There's going to be a little bit extra juice to it because it might be the last time they're playing. Oh, that's there's no scheduled rematch.
[00:44:20] Speaker A: Sorry, I thought there was another thing on top. They are going for the Platypus Trophy.
[00:44:25] Speaker B: I found that it is Duck and Beaver. So that's kind of like a mix between the two. That's why they call it Platypus.
[00:44:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I read that one has the Platypus has the Beaver tail, but with a Duck bill. So that's neat.
[00:44:35] Speaker B: So this game is in Alton Stadium. It's at oregon. The Oregon Ducks. Ten and one, seven and one. They're a team. If they win, I think they're already going to the Pac Twelve Championship. But they have a chance. They win this game. Then they beat Washington in the Pac Twelve championship. They're pretty much guaranteed a playoff spot. And they're taking on the Oregon State Beavers. Eight and three, five and three in the conference. They've had a good year.
[00:44:59] Speaker A: It's got to be hard to go play the Ducks at home, though.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: 13 and a half. The ducks are favorite.
I think it's going to be a much closer game. But I do have the Ducks winning.
[00:45:09] Speaker A: DJ. Ugali. I'm sorry if I pronounced his name wrong.
[00:45:12] Speaker B: You know, his brother is a defense Ugale. I think it's more right. His brother is a defensive lineman, a defensive end for Oregon.
And the dad made a comment like, it would be really cool to see it's. His younger brother? Yeah, he said that it was like I don't want to say it's going to happen, but it would be a special moment. If it's younger, it really would.
[00:45:31] Speaker A: Ugule sacked by needs to protect if Oregon State is going to have a chance to win, ugule needs to protect the ball.
[00:45:41] Speaker B: They came so close to beating Washington.
[00:45:43] Speaker A: Last week, the pick. I mean, I know you can't just count it on one turnover, but a turnover does not help you.
[00:45:50] Speaker B: I mean, Oregon State defense held Washington scoreless in the second half.
[00:45:53] Speaker A: Right. Washington just was able to withstand it.
[00:45:57] Speaker B: But like I said, I think this is going to be a very close game.
[00:46:00] Speaker A: Bonix and the Ducks were able to sit early last week, so they should be rested.
[00:46:05] Speaker B: But that's not necessarily a good thing.
[00:46:07] Speaker A: I think the Ducks are going to win.
[00:46:09] Speaker B: I do too, but I think it's going to be much closer than 13 and a half. I think it's going to be like a three point Ducks win.
[00:46:14] Speaker A: I was going to say like a touchdown. Probably like not a last second score, but a score with like a minute left.
[00:46:21] Speaker B: Thinking like 41 38.
[00:46:23] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah.
[00:46:24] Speaker B: Very little high scoring because Oregon State is going to need to score some points to keep up with Oregon.
[00:46:28] Speaker A: So what's the next one we got? We got the Buckeyes versus Michigan.
[00:46:31] Speaker B: The game, maybe the best game of the entire college football regular season.
[00:46:37] Speaker A: Two unbeaten teams coming in, number 211.
[00:46:39] Speaker B: And number two versus number three. Biggest robbery in college football.
[00:46:44] Speaker A: Very close on the ODS.
[00:46:45] Speaker B: There's a cheating scandal going on with Michigan. The winner, three horball harbaugh is suspended. Correct.
[00:46:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh God.
[00:46:53] Speaker B: The winner of this goes to the Big Ten championship game. The loser does not the winner. I mean, one of these two teams are definitely going to the playoffs.
[00:47:02] Speaker A: High level talent.
[00:47:03] Speaker B: If it's a close game, both these teams might end up going to the playoffs. Out of the top four teams, this is just the game of the year.
[00:47:09] Speaker A: Is this one of the ones that Alabama has implications with that can get them into the playoffs?
[00:47:15] Speaker B: Well, they just need Alabama.
[00:47:17] Speaker A: They need a shit show.
[00:47:18] Speaker B: No, not really.
[00:47:19] Speaker A: No.
[00:47:19] Speaker B: All they need is one of these teams is going to drop down, obviously.
[00:47:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:23] Speaker B: Oregon probably to beat Washington. And if Alabama goes in, wins against Auburn and then wins against Georgia, the SEC title game, they're going to be in the playoff.
[00:47:32] Speaker A: Okay, well it's a lot, honestly.
[00:47:33] Speaker B: If Alabama, no matter what, if they win, they have a chance. They win, they're going the SEC champ is going to the playoff.
[00:47:40] Speaker A: Okay, fair enough.
[00:47:41] Speaker B: No doubt. But anyway, this is a huge game at Michigan. Michigan, three and a half point favorites. Michigan's won the last two games after I think Ohio State won eight or nine in a row.
[00:47:52] Speaker A: Listen, Michigan is favored for the first time since 2018. This is what I looked up today. But Ohio State won that game 62 to 39. So last time Michigan was favored, ohio.
[00:48:05] Speaker B: State beat the shit rip Dwayne haskins. He threw like six touchdowns in that game.
[00:48:10] Speaker A: R-I-P Dwayne.
[00:48:10] Speaker B: Haskins, he was like six touchdowns, like 400 yards. He destroyed Michigan.
[00:48:15] Speaker A: We have a whole bunch of talent in this game too. We got Blake Corum. We got Marvin Harrison Jr. Both going to come out. Two separate teams going to just be.
[00:48:24] Speaker B: Stunning on either side, but two different total mentalities. Michigan is a run it down your throat. They're going to run the ball on you.
[00:48:31] Speaker A: Ohio State's electric offense.
[00:48:33] Speaker B: Electric offense. They got three great receivers.
[00:48:35] Speaker A: Both top ten defenses.
[00:48:37] Speaker B: Yeah, both top ten defenses. I think Ohio State, Michigan has, they've won their two games without Harbaugh, but they haven't looked as good as they had been. And I think that's going to in a game like this, I think sobbing.
[00:48:50] Speaker A: Saying this is for you, coach is.
[00:48:52] Speaker B: A bad look, I think in a game like this, this is when we're going to see why they need horrible on the sideline. It's going to hurt them. I got Ohio state going into Michigan, going into the big house and winning the game. I got the Buckeyes getting the win. I agree.
[00:49:05] Speaker A: I think the Ohio did you say.
[00:49:08] Speaker B: That the Ohio State, they trademarked the Jesus.
[00:49:12] Speaker A: The Ohio state is going to win the game on Friday.
[00:49:17] Speaker B: So there you have it. Let's move on to the iron bowl now, a game that's usually closer than people expect to. This is a number eight, alabama Crimson tides, seven and one. I would sorry, seven and o in SEC play, taking on the Auburn Tigers. Six and five, three and four. Auburn coming off maybe the most embarrassing loss I've ever seen an SEC team have since I've been watching football for the past 30 years.
[00:49:42] Speaker A: They lost a Jordan hair last week.
[00:49:46] Speaker B: Jordan hair is a stadium.
[00:49:47] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sorry. Lost at Jordan hair last week. 25 and a half point underdog Or Taylor.
[00:49:51] Speaker B: Mexico State supposed to be pretty much a gimme win that you probably paid this team a couple of million to come play you. As you said, 25 and a half point favorites. They lost 31 to ten after winning three straight SEC games. They had turned their season around.
[00:50:05] Speaker A: Yeah, they were, I mean, six. And I think starting off bad, it's.
[00:50:09] Speaker B: Obvious to say they were looking forward to this week and they kind of just blew their game off.
[00:50:15] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:50:16] Speaker B: That's why I think Auburn is a very dangerous team coming into this game.
[00:50:19] Speaker A: Look, I didn't think they were going to win. I didn't think this game was going to be nearly as close. I think Alabama wins. But here's the thing, I guess to your point. I think with the spread being as.
[00:50:32] Speaker B: High as it is and how 14 and a half?
[00:50:35] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I have it as, 14 and a half over under 49.
[00:50:38] Speaker B: So I think it's 14 and a half. I got Alabama winning by 14, so I don't think they cover that's fair.
[00:50:44] Speaker A: Yeah, give them plus 14.
[00:50:45] Speaker B: It's like 34. Auburn plus 14, 34 20 or something like that.
[00:50:49] Speaker A: Right. Just because yeah, auburn's had a pretty dominant season for their win so far.
[00:50:54] Speaker B: But they've also, I mean, they're six and five.
[00:50:56] Speaker A: This is Alabama. I'm sorry. Alabama's had some pretty dominant wins for their season throughout the year, but you've kind of convinced me that it's going to be more contested than I think.
[00:51:07] Speaker B: This game's usually pretty contested.
[00:51:09] Speaker A: All right, so the next one is going to be the Texas A M aggies taking on at home final game of the regular season, the LSU Tigers.
[00:51:17] Speaker B: And the Heisman officially this week the Heisman favorite finally in the talks, Jayden Daniels. I mean, his stats, if you look.
[00:51:24] Speaker A: At, like kind of snubbing him from talking about him as like I mean.
[00:51:29] Speaker B: His stats are unbelievable, right?
[00:51:30] Speaker A: But up till the final week of the regular season, it took you to realize that this dude's a monster.
[00:51:36] Speaker B: He's a monster so far.
[00:51:38] Speaker A: Like not so far, but throughout this season.
[00:51:40] Speaker B: A and M, this is their second game without Jimbo Fisher as the head coach after they fired him, and that.
[00:51:46] Speaker A: Still netted him like $50 million.
[00:51:49] Speaker B: Based on that check, it's like 70, 80 million, right?
[00:51:51] Speaker A: So that's fine.
[00:51:53] Speaker B: This is a game LSU, since Texas A and M has come into the SEC, LSU has kind of dominated them. I think A and M has won once, maybe twice in the past ten years.
I think it's going to be more of the same. I think LSU comes in, they're hot right now. I think this is the kind of team they can come in and beat. I think it's going to be a lot like the Florida game, a lot like just a game where it's close at first and then this LSU offense is just a little too much. LSU's defense, realistically, the way their offense is playing, probably needs like two or three stops and then they're going to win by two or three touchdowns.
[00:52:31] Speaker A: Yeah, the Aggies being double digit dogs make sense to me here. I think LSU is going to win by more than ten and a half, especially with Jaden Daniels playing like an absolute savage.
[00:52:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I think he puts his stamp on the Heisman.
[00:52:43] Speaker A: That's exactly what I was going to say. I think he does what it takes, whether it's a couple of rushing scores from him or throwing it 500 yards through the air with four touchdowns. I think he's going to because that's.
[00:52:55] Speaker B: What he's been doing.
[00:52:55] Speaker A: That's true. He could do both. He could put together seven touchdowns this week and give LSU the nine and three season, although I do believe the Aggies are going to be able to score against LSU's poor defense, which is what has lost them the three games they've lost. But I think LSU is going to win this week for sure.
[00:53:15] Speaker B: All right, so let's move on to the Apple Cup. This is Washington. Washington state. The Huskies come in number four, undefeated eight no already clinched their ticket to the Pac Twelve championship.
[00:53:24] Speaker A: Put some respect on that record, sir.
[00:53:27] Speaker B: Finally, the playoff committee moving them up to number four. I mean, it's in their hands right now where they just got to win out. They're going to the playoffs, but they're taking on a pesky Washington State team coming off of a huge win against Colorado where they beat the shit out of the Buffaloes after four straight losses. It kind of halted the losing streak. Their win away, they could do two things right here. They could ruin their arch rival season, they could defeated season and they could qualify for a bowl game with it.
[00:53:55] Speaker A: They. Got to be riding high after their win over the Buffaloes. That gives you a lot of motivation even if you thought that you could win. Coming in, doing it, beating Coach Prime, that's a big name to have going into an undefeated matchup against the number four ranked team in the nation.
[00:54:11] Speaker B: So I think this is another game where this spread is 16 and a half for Washington in their favorite. It is not going to be that big of a difference in this game. I think washington wins. I think the Huskies win. But I think it's going to be a lot like their last couple of games where it's pretty close the whole way through. I'm going to say Washington by probably like six to eight points.
[00:54:33] Speaker A: Man. Do you think the 68 and a half over or under is going to hit?
I feel like this is an under type of game, but I still feel big pinnocks energy. So I'm going to have to go with the Huskies.
[00:54:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I got the huskies, too. I'm thinking just with the way they've kind of been playing, I'm not going to say low scoring because they've had some high scoring games, but they have an under in them, like a 30.
[00:54:57] Speaker A: 22 game Huskies win.
[00:55:00] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:55:01] Speaker A: All right. And this will probably be the yeah, this is eight final game for Florida. Our college game day for us. Florida State Seminoles versus the Florida.
[00:55:11] Speaker B: Call this one the Sunshine Showdown, I think.
[00:55:14] Speaker A: Sunshine Showdown. The S's.
[00:55:16] Speaker B: So this is another game. Florida State undefeated coming off of a win.
[00:55:20] Speaker A: But they lost their star quarterback lost Jordan Travis. So Rodenmeyer Florida State their team.
[00:55:29] Speaker B: If they go undefeated, they win this game and they beat Louisville in the ACC championship game. You can't not put them in the playoffs at undefeated.
And they're taking on the Florida Gators to come in five and six playing for a bowl game.
[00:55:42] Speaker A: Florida Gators lost four in a row.
[00:55:44] Speaker B: This is the same as the last matchup we just had where it's a team where you're playing your arch rival, where you have a chance to ruin their season, undefeated season and make a bowl game. So there's a lot to play for for Florida. Question is, do they play for they didn't play horrible last week. They competed with Missouri. But I think Florida State comes in and I think they figure even with a backup quarterback, that's the biggest question. I think they figure out a way to get a win that's kind of.
[00:56:10] Speaker A: Like the storybook ending for the Gators is that there is possible to win this game against the number five ranked Seminoles even or not even, but solely because Jordan Travis is.
It hurts them in a way that the whole team can change because it's hard to prepare for just one week. The next week out. It's one thing being thrown in the game and getting riding high off the momentum and winning, but it's hard to prepare for just one week and go out and execute. I still think the Seminoles are going to win, but I think it's going to be a close game. And I think that the kind of lines have already started to show. That where Florida State's only favored by six and a half, less than a know only days before the game. I think it's going to only get closer leading up, but I do think Florida state wins.
[00:56:58] Speaker B: All right, so that wraps up our college football talk for the week. Let's move on to the NFL and the first game we're going to cover Thanksgiving morning for us. I think it starts at like 1030 11:00 a.m.. It's the traditional game. It's the Detroit Lions hosting the Green Bay Packers. The Lions, eight and two, somehow one of the best teams in the NFL. The funny thing was they get it, though, the first time they're eight and two since the 1960s. The funny thing was that was before segregation. That was also JFK was president. That's how long ago it was since the lines were this good.
[00:57:32] Speaker A: Damn. Look, Jordan Love, for lack of a better term, he's been a middling quarterback so far.
[00:57:38] Speaker B: He hasn't been horrible, but he hasn't won them any games and he hasn't been great.
[00:57:42] Speaker A: And then Aaron Jones goes down last. You know, he's not like the number one running back, but he was a good passing option.
[00:57:49] Speaker B: But, I mean, the packers love figured out a way to get a win against the Chargers last, but I think.
[00:57:55] Speaker A: The Chargers are a kryptonite in their own right for themselves. I think the are going to continue just rallying behind their coach.
[00:58:03] Speaker B: I love Dan Campbell.
[00:58:04] Speaker A: He's awesome. He gives everybody the motivation.
[00:58:07] Speaker B: So he went to Texas A M and Texas A M is looking for a new coach and they asked him about it and he said, I want to do everything I can to help Texas A M, but except coach there.
[00:58:16] Speaker A: That's funny.
[00:58:16] Speaker B: It was a great quote.
[00:58:17] Speaker A: I think we have a big day set up for David Montgomery. Packers defense hasn't been that great this year and I think we're going to be able to run all over them. With David Montgomery for the Lions, that with a couple passing attacks from Jared Goff, I think is going to spell the win for him. I don't know if they win by more than a touchdown like the Lions suggest, but I don't think they get upset at home.
[00:58:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I got the Lions, too, so let's move on. Thanksgiving night, NFC West showdown, seven and three, san Francisco 49. Ers division leader taking on the six and four, Seattle Seahawks. San Francisco coming off of an impressive performance, especially Brock Purdy against the Buccaneers. I think Seahawks coming off of a tough loss where they drove down the field, had the chance to win and just missed a field goal. Like a 50 yard field goal.
[00:59:05] Speaker A: Jason Myers I mean, look, you're an.
[00:59:08] Speaker B: NFL kicker, but you can't make a 50. I know it's 55, it's a long one, but you got to make it. You got to make that. Your team drove you into position.
[00:59:16] Speaker A: They gave it to you. They didn't give it to you, but they put it in your corner and you missed it. Yeah, look, the 49 ers, I think they're going to come out with the most dynamic offense in the NFL. They've shown that through.
[00:59:26] Speaker B: I mean, Brock Purdy looked amazing back to last season.
[00:59:30] Speaker A: Form. Seven and three is a crazy record for what I would imagine is now the second or third best team in the NFL.
[00:59:38] Speaker B: I mean, they've been the second or third best team in the whole season. They've had a tough stretch.
[00:59:43] Speaker A: They've had a tough stretch. They did have a tough stretch, but.
[00:59:45] Speaker B: They started like five.
[00:59:46] Speaker A: And look, you got people on that team like Brock Purdy, christian McCaffrey, george kittle brennan Iuke debo Samuel. But then you have somebody like the Seahawks who have been playing up.
[00:59:56] Speaker B: That was only guys, though. Look at their defense, right?
[01:00:00] Speaker A: The defense is just they also have.
[01:00:02] Speaker B: The best offensive tackle in football, trent Williams. The 49 ers they're just built I'm.
[01:00:07] Speaker A: Only talking about offensive weapons because those are the guys putting up the points typically. But you're right, the defense is unquestionably good. The offensive line is doing its job. It takes a unit, and San Francisco is putting it together. Seattle, though, they're a force to be reckoned with. Gino Smith came out of nowhere last year, put on a performance. And six and four for this season isn't anything to scoff at with how football has been going. I think the 49 ers win, I don't know by how much, but I think it's going to be an over styled game. Over 43 points with the 49 ers winning.
[01:00:44] Speaker B: I got the 49 ers winning. I think it's going to be tough going into Seattle, but I think they figure out a way to get to Dub. So let's move on. One of my favorite teams, not one of my favorite teams, my favorite team.
[01:00:55] Speaker A: Say it with your chest.
[01:00:56] Speaker B: My favorite team taking on their biggest rival, the New Orleans Saints. Big five and five, NFC south looters somehow taking on the team right on their heels. Five and five, taking on the team right on their heels. The four and six. Atlanta Falcons, their arch rivals, both teams coming off of bad losses. Saints, they only lost by eight to the Vikings. They've had a bye week since then.
[01:01:18] Speaker A: But eight, the game wasn't that close.
[01:01:23] Speaker B: And then the Falcons, embarrassed by the Cardinals, embarrassed.
[01:01:28] Speaker A: Kyler Murray's back, though.
[01:01:29] Speaker B: Kyler Murray is back. That's what you got to remember.
[01:01:31] Speaker A: But still little running, small man running.
[01:01:34] Speaker B: Around like I mean, I think this is going to be just a game of not going to fuck it up more.
[01:01:40] Speaker A: He's in concussion protocol. They're playing on Sunday.
[01:01:43] Speaker B: Playing on Sunday.
[01:01:44] Speaker A: So he has, like, six days to come back. Is he going to play? What do you think? If not, you got eating the W's Jamis.
[01:01:52] Speaker B: I mean, I don't know if that.
[01:01:53] Speaker A: Would be better or worse. What do you think?
[01:01:55] Speaker B: I think it's neutral. Totally different, but neutral.
[01:01:59] Speaker A: Desmond Ritter for the falcons. Yeah.
[01:02:01] Speaker B: They went back to neither team has quarterback.
[01:02:03] Speaker A: Well, Taylor, Heinecke is hurt. As to back to Ritter, I think with all these changes, at the very least, if Derek Carr can't play, jameis Winston has been in the program long enough. I think he can pull it off. I agree.
[01:02:18] Speaker B: I think the Saints have a better defense, and I think they figure out a way to win the game.
[01:02:21] Speaker A: Saints will be six and five, have one win lead on the division, give them a little bit of breathing room.
[01:02:29] Speaker B: Be a big win if they get it, especially division wise. So let's move on. Now, your favorite team taking on the other team in the Saints division, the four and six Buccaneers, which we kind.
[01:02:37] Speaker A: Of need the Colts to win here.
[01:02:38] Speaker B: We both need the Colts to win.
[01:02:39] Speaker A: Right.
[01:02:40] Speaker B: Taking on the five and five Indianapolis Colts. Colts coming off of maybe the ugliest NFL game I've ever watched. They went to Germany and beat the Patriots ten to six. Somehow, still, as bad as Mac Jones played.
Still Patriots had a chance to win the game.
[01:02:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, you just had to do something. You just had to do one thing the whole game, and either team wins, and we just didn't. Fucking the Bucks, coming off of a.
[01:03:05] Speaker B: Tough loss to the Niners, they lost by 13. It really wasn't that close.
[01:03:10] Speaker A: Look, and honestly, I didn't come into this season with a lot of expectations. We had Jonathan Taylor, who was kind of hurt in contract talks, didn't know what was going to happen. Then Anthony Richardson was going to be the rookie. We didn't know how he was going to be. Then he got hurt out for the season. Now we have Gardner Minshew, which he's an electric guy on the offense. He's a really pump up. He's a motivator. He's a locker room guy. At the very least, he'll win you some games. We just need to find a way to beat the Bucks here. We need Baker Mayfield to stumble like we've seen him stumble. We need Baker to be Baker.
We just cut shaquille. Leonard I think that's going to be good. It's going to free up some ability, give a younger guy a chance. I know Shaquille Leonard is only 28, but give a guy who's been performing better a chance to come out and show his stuff, I think the Colts win.
Baker Mayfield has been middle of the road, and the Bucks have lost five of the last six.
[01:04:07] Speaker B: And, you know, all that sounds good, but I'm making a last minute change to my pick right here. Oh, no, I had the Colts. There's something that tells me Tampa is going to come in, baker's going to do enough. He's been hasn't been playing the best. I think this is a game where he comes in they're like, oh, okay. Where he kind of because he comes in waves.
[01:04:28] Speaker A: You heard it here first.
[01:04:29] Speaker B: So I got the bucks going in Andy. I would like them to lose just because it would help the Saints, but I think the Bucks going to andy get the win.
[01:04:37] Speaker A: That's fair. So moving on to another divisional game.
[01:04:40] Speaker B: Maybe the most surprising good game, like before the season, if we would have said seven and three, jags, six and four, best, CJ Strat might be that dude. One of the best matchups of the entire weekend.
[01:04:54] Speaker A: Absolutely. You have a bunch of matchups where it could be like the good team just slaughtering the bad team.
[01:04:58] Speaker B: And CJ.
[01:04:59] Speaker A: This is a tough divisional matchup that.
[01:05:01] Speaker B: Has I think he is that dude.
[01:05:05] Speaker A: He very well could be. I think he could be Jacksonville.
[01:05:10] Speaker B: They beat the shit out of Titans last week.
[01:05:13] Speaker A: They pretty much cemented themselves.
[01:05:15] Speaker B: They had a bad loss the week before, I think to the niners at home.
[01:05:19] Speaker A: But it's the niners, so it's not a respectable loss, but it's better.
[01:05:22] Speaker B: Not the way they lost. They lost 37 three. But they came back after that loss, obviously, with the vengeance. They took it out on the Titans.
[01:05:29] Speaker A: CJ. Stroud.
[01:05:30] Speaker B: On the CJ.
[01:05:31] Speaker A: Stroud.
[01:05:32] Speaker B: Who just continues fire in passing yards per game.
[01:05:36] Speaker A: Right.
[01:05:37] Speaker B: 300. And honestly, last week was his worst game in a little while, and they still figured out a way to win, which tells you this team is kind of coming together.
[01:05:46] Speaker A: My hook here, I think Trevor Lawrence is going to be a little bit more crafty. He was crafty in college. He's been crafty so far in the NFL, and I think the experience from him is going to cause him to kind of vibe with the ODS and win.
[01:06:01] Speaker B: I agree. I think it's going to be a game where both quarterbacks play pretty well and kind of showcase themselves. But I agree with you. I think the experience, just being a starter a little bit in the NFL a little longer than CJ. Stroud.
[01:06:13] Speaker A: Vibing with that offense a little bit more, playing with the guys a little bit more, being on that team, knowing them, I think that's going to matter a lot.
[01:06:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I think Trevor and the Jags figure out a way to get this one get this one done and get the dub in Houston. So let's move on. Next game, the seven and three, Kansas City Chiefs coming off of a gut wrenching loss against the Eagles, where they.
[01:06:35] Speaker A: Really tush push is a bitch.
[01:06:37] Speaker B: But, I mean, it was a game where the Chiefs, they had chances to win this game.
[01:06:42] Speaker A: They had multiple chances, but the Eagles did what it took to score the last points.
[01:06:46] Speaker B: And they're taking on the Vegas Raiders coming in off of a loss to the Dolphins, but I think they're one in one since they fired Josh McDaniels. Yeah, they at least have some they.
[01:06:55] Speaker A: Have a respectable loss to the Dolphins.
[01:06:57] Speaker B: It seems like the team is happy. Josh McDaniels isn't there anymore, and most.
[01:07:02] Speaker A: Of the coaching staff is gone. Actually.
[01:07:04] Speaker B: They have good vibes coming in, but I just think the Chiefs coming off of a loss like they did, there's no way the Chiefs are losing two games in a row, especially to a division opponent.
[01:07:13] Speaker A: There can't be many times where Patrick Mahomes has lost two games in a row in his career.
[01:07:17] Speaker B: I think the Chiefs go into Vegas.
[01:07:20] Speaker A: I think they're winning by more than nine as well.
[01:07:22] Speaker B: I do. I think they come and they just perform well. I think Kelsey probably goes off.
[01:07:27] Speaker A: This is going to be an over 43 type game. I think this is going to be an absolute, like, Patrick Mahomes rookie or whatever season was his best season last or two seasons.
[01:07:39] Speaker B: I'm going to say like 3421-3424. I think the Chiefs get the dub.
[01:07:43] Speaker A: And just an absolute stunning performance by Patrick Mahomes.
[01:07:46] Speaker B: Now let's move on to maybe one of the most interesting matchups of the week coming into the season. We said the Jags Texans. Nobody thought that would be a good game. Beginning of the season, eagles versus the Bills in week twelve of the NFL. You'd say that was like a Super Bowl matchup, and the Bills have been shit. Bills have not been playing well six and five. But their first game since they fired their offensive coordinator, they put up 32 points against a good jets defense. So maybe they've kind of turned things around. They definitely have the talent they're taking on. Eagles team coming off a huge win. Huge win over there in Kansas City. Eagles hosting the bills.
[01:08:24] Speaker A: I think Buffalo has shown a lot of weakness in situations where the Eagles have shown the poise to win games.
[01:08:31] Speaker B: I agree with you, but I think the Bills this is a game six and five, they know they have to have. I think Josh Allen steps up. I think he is a monster game. And I think the Bills somehow, some way, get a win that they have to have in Philadelphia. Eagles riding high off of a huge win, maybe a little letdown. I think the Bills go and get the dub.
[01:08:51] Speaker A: In order for that to happen, Stefan Diggs needs to be involved heavily in the offense. But you also cannot not target Gabe Davis. You have to at least attempt to spread the ball around. I understand the game plan gets away from you, but you can't not target some of your best receivers.
[01:09:08] Speaker B: I mean, they look good. Last week, bottom line.
[01:09:12] Speaker A: I think the Eagles are going to win.
[01:09:13] Speaker B: All that's true what you said. Josh Allen has to protect the ball, though.
[01:09:17] Speaker A: He absolutely does. You cannot keep the key to them. You cannot throw eleven picks in the NFL and expect to win more than six games.
[01:09:24] Speaker B: All right, so the last game, we're going to cover another big game. The Baltimore Ravens, right now sitting at the number one seed in the AFC at eight and three, traveling cross country to play in La against the Chargers. The four and six chargers.
[01:09:36] Speaker A: The Baltimore Ravens are the quietest, best team in the NFL.
[01:09:40] Speaker B: Their team not a lot of people are talking about and they can definitely hang with anybody, especially the way they play.
[01:09:45] Speaker A: Right. They've been playing great, fantastic on the ground, not even needing Lamar Jackson to throw the ball more than 225 yards a game. It's amazing. But then last week, he unloads. He goes off, throws two, three touchdowns, 285 yards or something like that. He does what he has to do, even in a game where he doesn't have to do it. Showing them the dynamic range of that offense. And then the chargers.
What is it like? Chokesville USA.
[01:10:15] Speaker B: Yeah, Chokesville USA is a good way to put it.
[01:10:17] Speaker A: I think not. Josh, justin Herbert and Tony Romo are the same fantasy quarterback.
[01:10:26] Speaker B: All this is true that you said, but I'm making a late switch again. I'm making another late switch. I think the Chargers at home. This is the kind of game, this is what Justin Herbert does. He plays like shit. He doesn't play like shit. But the team doesn't win games. But then they do just enough to draw you back in to make you think they're a good team. I think the Chargers, especially considering they're playing at home, baltimore's, traveling cross country. The Chargers have it in them. We all know they have it in them. It's can they do it. I think this is one of the games where they show that flash in the pan, like, oh, this is what that team could be. And they get the dub.
[01:11:00] Speaker A: Okay, a couple of stats to support your Chargers mantra or whatever you want to call it. Right now, the Chargers are top ten in the following categories points per game, yards per game, passing yards per game, third down, efficiency and sacks. But they have the clutch level of like, what? Desmond Ritter?
[01:11:24] Speaker B: I mean, that's unfair to Desmond Ritter. Why are you just throwing that dude under the bus?
[01:11:28] Speaker A: Who do you want to say? Johnny?
[01:11:30] Speaker B: You said Tony Romo.
[01:11:32] Speaker A: Tony Romo.
[01:11:32] Speaker B: Can we double the guys that aren't good?
[01:11:34] Speaker A: That's not clutch level of Tony Romo. There we go.
Yeah, I picked the ravens for sure.
All right, welcome back to Stakes and takes our betting segment where we're going to kind of apologize for what we got. Well, I'm not going to apologize. I'm just going to tell you what I got wrong, and then we're going to try to get more things right this week than we did last week. Sounds good.
[01:12:04] Speaker B: I don't know if I can get more right than I did last week.
[01:12:06] Speaker A: Why don't you try to do better? Because you didn't do perfect.
[01:12:09] Speaker B: Didn't do perfect, but nobody's perfect.
[01:12:11] Speaker A: UFC Vegas 82, I went three and three. How'd you do?
[01:12:16] Speaker B: UFC Vegas 82, I went four and two.
[01:12:18] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:12:19] Speaker B: My two losses, the main event. I had Paul Craig. Obviously, Brendan Allen won.
And then the opening fight.
[01:12:26] Speaker A: Jesus Christ. That one.
[01:12:28] Speaker B: The doctor medic taking on oral by. Oral by the neanderthal.
[01:12:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:12:33] Speaker B: Short notice. And he came in oral by dominant fashion.
[01:12:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I got that one wrong, too. I also got Luana Panero and Jordan Levitt wrong. But I did get as well as you.
Talbot. Peyton Talbot. Michael Morales. But then I picked the main event. Right. Brendan Allen. Louisiana boy.
College football. We both went five and O, so congratulations to us there. Thank you.
[01:12:58] Speaker B: You're welcome.
[01:12:58] Speaker A: Pick the same five fights. Georgia, Arizona football games. That, too. Washington, Clemson, Kansas State. Clemson, Kansas State were pretty close games.
Scary, got sweaty.
[01:13:10] Speaker B: It was 22 20.
[01:13:12] Speaker A: That's true. A few of the games got scary, but we held out, went five, and so I'm happy with all that. And then the NFL, I went three and two. I got the Bills right, the 49 Ers right. And the browns, right? But both of my bets were wrong. Bengals and Chiefs, it was kind of disgruntled.
[01:13:29] Speaker B: I went four and one. I picked the eagles. That was our only difference in NFL. I got that right.
[01:13:33] Speaker A: Kind of gave you the edge on the whole week.
[01:13:35] Speaker B: So it kind of gave me the edge on the whole week.
[01:13:37] Speaker A: I went eleven and five.
[01:13:38] Speaker B: On my takes, I went 13 and three. So I had another great week.
[01:13:43] Speaker A: Fuck, that's tough.
[01:13:45] Speaker B: How'd you do in betting my stakes?
[01:13:48] Speaker A: I went three and two, dude.
[01:13:49] Speaker B: I also went three and two.
[01:13:51] Speaker A: I got Michael Morales money line. Right. I got Kansas State money line. Right. And I got Washington money line. Right. I lost on the Bengals money line and the Chiefs money line. Two bad beats that. I think betting them this coming week will prove positive in your future.
Yes.
[01:14:10] Speaker B: So I went three and two as well. My two losses, both my UFC bets. I had Paul Craig money line, obviously a loss.
[01:14:15] Speaker A: That was a big plus, though. That was like a plus. 310 underdog.
[01:14:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I thought the line was a little out of whack, but apparently it wasn't.
[01:14:23] Speaker A: It was right in line.
[01:14:24] Speaker B: Then I had Medic, the doctor money line, he lost to Oral By on.
[01:14:30] Speaker A: Short notice because you kind of thought he was going to be fighting Parsons.
[01:14:34] Speaker B: I did, but I still would have done the same thing, probably.
[01:14:36] Speaker A: Yeah. I would have thought it even been heavier ODS, but I did get my.
[01:14:40] Speaker B: Three football bets, right? Two of them college, that was Washington money line and UGA, the Georgia Bulldogs money line. And then my NFL bet, cleveland Browns money line with I made the bet with Deshaun Watson as a starter between the time I made the bet and the game started. He's out for the season.
[01:14:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:14:57] Speaker B: DJP started DTR.
[01:14:59] Speaker A: DTR. DJP.
[01:15:01] Speaker B: I don't know who DJP is. DTR started dorian john's peoples.
[01:15:05] Speaker A: That's nobody.
[01:15:07] Speaker B: You just mix two people together.
[01:15:08] Speaker A: Who am I thinking of? There's Darius. No.
[01:15:12] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a peoples Jefferson or something.
[01:15:15] Speaker A: That's who I'm thinking of. Yeah.
[01:15:16] Speaker B: But yeah, DTR. Dorian is his first name.
[01:15:20] Speaker A: There you go.
[01:15:20] Speaker B: Thomas Robinson, I believe.
[01:15:21] Speaker A: There you go.
[01:15:22] Speaker B: He started for the Browns. The Browns defense is, like, pretty good, scary good. They got them the win. DTR did just enough, so thank God for him. Thank God for the Browns.
[01:15:33] Speaker A: We don't have any fights this week. We got to wait till next week for UFC. Austin. So leaning into the stakes for this week, I got five football bets. I got three college, two NFL. What you got?
[01:15:45] Speaker B: I did two college, three NFL.
[01:15:47] Speaker A: Sorry.
[01:15:47] Speaker B: Let's go.
[01:15:48] Speaker A: College first. I went two lane moneyline -155 I went LSU over 66 and a half points with the Aggies. And then I think this one we have the same I have Ohio State moneyline as my top tier pick or stake yeah.
[01:16:11] Speaker B: I also had Ohio State moneyline plus 142. My other college bet was the Ole Miss Rebels money line. Took a little bit of a favorite here. Minus 425.
[01:16:21] Speaker A: That's fine. NFL. I have the Eagles money line.
[01:16:25] Speaker B: I have the Bills money line at plus 154. So we're different on that battling there.
[01:16:29] Speaker A: I got the Ravens money line as my fifth bet.
[01:16:33] Speaker B: Okay. My other two bets, 49, Ers money line, -290, and then the Chiefs versus the Raiders, the Chiefs money line, minus 395.
[01:16:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I can't see them losing two.
[01:16:42] Speaker B: In a row, especially to the Raiders.
[01:16:44] Speaker A: Yeah. So last week we started one thing new. We're going to just do it every week. Kind of pick one, not really keep track of it too much. Maybe just say, like, I got it right or I got it wrong.
[01:16:55] Speaker B: From who was your upset pick last week?
[01:16:58] Speaker A: So I thought the Vikings were going to beat the Broncos, and they came just short. They did.
[01:17:04] Speaker B: I got mine, right?
[01:17:05] Speaker A: Yeah, you did. The Washington husband, we thought that line was a little funky, and it was. We both picked Washington to win the game, and it was a close game. 22 20.
[01:17:16] Speaker B: I believe they won 22 20. They're undefeated. And they were plus odds. It was like plus 110. But still.
[01:17:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, plus is plus. That's what I call an upset of the week.
[01:17:26] Speaker B: This week. I'm kind of following the same line. I took one of the best teams in the country with plus ODS they are taking on another one of the best teams in the country for college football. I have the number two Ohio State Buckeyes as my upset of the week. Beating the number three Michigan Wolverines plus 142 is what I got it at.
[01:17:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I have the exact same thing. I thought with the stats I saw last time Michigan was favored in a game, they lost 62 to 39. I think the exact same thing. I think Ohio State is going to win this game. Get the upset of the week for that. Plus 142 or 145. Money line.
[01:18:04] Speaker B: Check us out next week on episode 24 when we preview UFC Austin College football championship week in week 13.
[01:18:11] Speaker A: NFL um scratching like the whip with the winter.
[01:18:29] Speaker B: Scratching.
[01:18:40] Speaker A: Scratching.
[01:18:44] Speaker B: Close.
[01:19:34] Speaker A: It'S, Grant.
