Episode 44, NBA Playoffs, UFC St. Louis, Top 5 Draft Picks, and More!

[00:00:02] Speaker A: All right, welcome back to split decision. Before we handle our normal business, Christian is in France. So we have a special guest this week, a good friend of ours, Marquess. He's the head football coach at our local high school. He's an all around great dude. Welcome to the show. Glad to have you. All right, this week on episode 44, we're going to dive into the NBA playoffs. Then we're going to give our take on the NFL draft. Following that, we're going to do our own draft of top five draft picks. And to round things off, we're going to go with UFC St. Louis. Good preview of that. That's Derek Lewis versus Rodrigo Nascimento. That's this weekend, May 11. May 11. Don't want to sound too stupid. And don't forget Mother's Day on Sunday, May 12. But before you do all of that, head to splitdecisionpod.com, where you're going to see all of our recent episodes, top five drafts, everything we have. All right, let's go. All right, so today we're doing things a little bit differently. First off, we're pretty much just going to have like a live discussion on NBA playoffs. We're going to start with the Western Conference semifinals. This is the Mavericks fifth rank, taking on the number one seeded Oklahoma City Thunder. It's a good series so far, or at least Mavericks to get in this far was kind of put up a good series. You know, they won three to two. Who are they? Who they play again? I forgot the series before. Yeah. [00:01:45] Speaker B: I'm not gonna lie, I don't. [00:01:46] Speaker A: I can click it real quick, but yeah, the Mavericks were beat. The Clippers. They upset the Clippers, the old Clippers. All the injuries and whatnot, right? Paul George still there, hanging in there. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Kawhi Leonard still got bad knees. [00:01:59] Speaker A: Hey, it happens. Yeah. So they moved on. They got pretty much stomped out. Game 1117 and 95 as we expect. Shy Gilgames Alexander, I've never seen him good on the thunder. I don't know how many seasons he's played on the thunder. How many has he once they like three or four. [00:02:20] Speaker B: Cuz he got traded from the Clippers after the second 3rd year. [00:02:22] Speaker A: Okay. [00:02:23] Speaker B: The Clippers Dockers was really, really upset. They traded him and I think was the Chris Paul trader, whatever the case may be, I'm not sure. But because he saw future superstar, he averaged like, I want to say, 18 as a rookie. Damn, I may be wrong. You can check that, but I went. [00:02:39] Speaker A: Out to worry about stat checking. [00:02:40] Speaker B: He's that guy, man. He wants the ball. I think he averaged, like, 30 something this year. [00:02:46] Speaker A: It looks like Luka only scored 19. They're playing. When are they playing? Tomorrow. [00:02:51] Speaker B: Yeah, tomorrow. [00:02:52] Speaker A: So Lucas averaging 28.3 points a game. I mean, if he, if he puts up his season average, Kyrie comes in, you know, does. Does what he needs to do, I don't see why Dallas couldn't win a game. I know it's, like, heavily stacked against them. Yeah, but, dad, seems like Dallas gets themselves to this position often. That's why they acquired Kyrie. Right. Is they were trying to find a way to get Luca help enough to get past the semifinals. [00:03:22] Speaker B: This is enough. [00:03:24] Speaker A: I don't know. I mean, who's on outside of Alexander, on the exact, on the thunder? Who's there? Who do they have? I'm not familiar. [00:03:33] Speaker B: We have giddy, who. I love who I was hoping that the Pelicans would draft. [00:03:38] Speaker A: Giddy was a quiddy, too. [00:03:40] Speaker B: Yeah. So he's good to go, right? So I can talk good about him now? [00:03:42] Speaker A: Yeah, he's a good guy. Certified good guy. [00:03:45] Speaker B: I think he's one of those point shooting guards who can handle the rock. His shooting's become better. He's long. That's the thing with the thunder, man. They're extra long, they're lanky, and it's not a real problem. It's a problem for Luca, but it's definitely a problem for Kyrie. [00:03:58] Speaker A: Man, being five foot six, I've never been told I'm extra long. [00:04:06] Speaker B: All right, back to basketball. That was a good one, but Luca is going to have to be Luca. Like 28, ten, and ten. [00:04:16] Speaker A: Now, they're still playing at, at Oklahoma, right? [00:04:19] Speaker B: Still Oklahoma. So it's still, it's not a series yet until a road team wins. But I think for Dallas to steal this game, Luca is gonna have to give you about 28 to 30, and Kyrie is gonna have to give you about the same. [00:04:35] Speaker A: Man, I wish I had the stats on whether or not, like, lucas lost back to back games in the playoffs or, like, you know, like, what his consistent, what his rates are for, you know, doing that. They're currently a plus 160 moneyline underdog, the Mavericks. [00:04:51] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:51] Speaker A: So it's a lot closer than I expected, it being a number one to a five. See, but they have Luca, they've Kyrie. [00:04:57] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Okay. See, it's tough. They don't have the names, but the guy that plays defense, let me, let me go ahead and cheat right quick and see his name. He is the problem for Luca. Is he still still on there. I might be wrong. I may be old dorch. Yeah, that's his name. [00:05:14] Speaker A: Okay. [00:05:14] Speaker B: It was like a. I accidentally found out who this guy was. I was watching the game one weekend. This is, like, a couple years ago. He's an undrafted guy who has a chip on his shoulder who became a dude who's a defensive specialist. His job is to go out the best guy. Just be a menace. Like, you only pay 26 minutes, but you look at his plus minus, he's a plus 18. So that means he's why he's on the. [00:05:32] Speaker A: So we, like, we think that we're more of a podcast for normal people. So if somebody doesn't know, like, my wife listens, she doesn't know what a plus 18 is. [00:05:43] Speaker B: So it's basically, as you are on a possession, did you have a positive or a negative impact on that possession? Okay, like, if, for example, if I'm playing against you one on one, if you score a bucket on me because of poor defense, that's a minus. It's not a plus, right? If in that situation, I locked you down, that's a plus, not a minus, man. [00:06:00] Speaker A: They need to. That's how they educate people in two k with the v coins. You know, you get a good assist. You get, you know, one or two v coins. [00:06:08] Speaker B: They take it. They take a little things down. You let them go down. [00:06:11] Speaker A: Right, exactly. It's a good thing, like, learning how it actually impacts, whether they pay you more, whether your stats, you know, are better overall. It's fun to play like that. I think game two is going to be very interesting. Who do you pick? Winning game two. Oklahoma city Thunder versus mavericks. [00:06:32] Speaker B: My eyes and the math teacher and me look at these stats. Say it's okay. See, man, look at that dude, Lucas. [00:06:40] Speaker A: He really is. [00:06:41] Speaker B: Like, he's seeing him talk. Are we allowed to say certain words on this podcast? [00:06:45] Speaker A: Yeah, you could do your best. [00:06:46] Speaker B: Okay. Seeing him talk shit to these NBA players, the way he. The way he talks to him and calling guys small and say, boy, you can't guard me, Lucas. [00:06:53] Speaker A: That dude, he does back it up. [00:06:55] Speaker B: Oh, he backs it up. And it's just him. Like, I. Like, I love some Kyrie Irving, but he plays no defense now. Six foot two. [00:07:02] Speaker A: Add a little bit more for you. Okay, before you make your, like, final draw in this game. Thunder have one there. Ten in a row. They won ten straight, you know, but it's like you said, it's Luca. He's that dude. I mean, there's a lot of things. It's close odds. Mavericks, you know, they're. They're better in points, you know, points for. They're better in rebounds, but the thunder is better in assists, three point percentage and field goal percentage. Like you said, the thunder doesn't have as big of names that the Mavericks do, but it's going to be a long series. You know, at some point, Luca had a bad game. On week on game, 119 points. What was it? Seven rebounds? Something like that. It. It wasn't the performance you used to see. And out of him, they lost by 22. [00:07:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:58] Speaker A: If he puts up his normal 28, they lost by twelve. [00:08:03] Speaker B: Gyri puts up eight more, they lose by four. [00:08:05] Speaker A: So then it's a game, you know, I'm not speculating. [00:08:09] Speaker B: It's closer than what it looks. [00:08:11] Speaker A: Right. I think Mavericks gonna win game two. [00:08:15] Speaker B: That's your pick? Mavericks? [00:08:17] Speaker A: Mavericks, yeah, I rode with them on, on winning, beating the Clippers in that series. I'm going to keep riding with them. I don't think they necessarily beat the Thunder in this series, but I think they win game two. [00:08:27] Speaker B: If. If there's a game for the Mavericks to steal, it'd be this one. I'm looking at these numbers again. Good guy. And my boy Josh Giddy had a terrible game and they still won by 20. [00:08:42] Speaker A: Yeah. If he comes out and they, you know, shy. Performs and get it performs, then it's another blowout victory. Major. [00:08:48] Speaker B: So, Lucas, that dude. I'm going with Dallas. I'm sorry. I just. I just. I just. I just can't. If I'm betting my money, I'm gonna go with Luca because basketball is not a numbers thing. Sometimes that guy just shows up. Cause, you know, you doubt me. [00:09:05] Speaker A: Totally, totally fair. All right, let's jump over to another game tomorrow. I'm sorry, not another game. Well, no, it is another game tomorrow. That'll be Eastern Conference semifinals, Cavaliers versus Celtics. The number four seed taking on the number one seed again. Boston leads 10. You know, it's kind of contentious coming in. It's. It's hard for, you know, the Cavaliers to play. They're kind of the same thing where they're. They're not a big name team right now, where you got the Celtics loaded with names. Yeah. Everybody's got a name on him. Jalen Brown. Who, like, he's. I don't want to say the nois name. The biggest nobody, highest paid nobody in. [00:09:53] Speaker B: The history of highest paid nobodies. Because you know him, but you don't know. [00:09:56] Speaker A: Right. I couldn't pick him out of a lineup, but goddamn, I've heard his name. He's put up 30 points. 30 points. Not a game, but 30 points in so many games this season. It's. It's ridiculous. Or at least as much as I've heard it. This is one where I think it's kind of a clear. More of a, you know, different in the Mavericks thunder. I think it's more of a clear division. [00:10:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:20] Speaker A: You know, the odds on this one are -950. For the Celtics to win game two, plus 625 for the Cavaliers to steal it. Yeah, I just. I'm going to lean into that. I just. [00:10:32] Speaker B: So. No, Donovan Mitchell, that guy. [00:10:35] Speaker A: Look, I mean, Donovan Mitchell, do you like him? [00:10:37] Speaker B: Is he. You know, do you think he's able to do it by himself? Cause he's basically by himself. I mean, yeah, he has garland, but he's a six one point guard. And I'm looking at the roster like, I don't know much about the calves, but. And then Jared Allen didn't play last game because the illness, and he has a defensive stopper, so maybe I'll swing. [00:10:57] Speaker A: A little bit, but that's. They still lost by like 30. [00:10:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm trying to be skeptical, optimistic. I'm sorry. Optimistic. [00:11:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm being skeptical. Yeah. Just straight up. I think the Celtics. I'm gonna just lock it in up front. Celtics gonna win game two. All right, cuz I'm trying to build a little parlay action. [00:11:12] Speaker B: Okay? This is the easy one. Like I said, I could go into details about how Jason Tatum had a horrible game last game and everybody loved him over Jalen Brown. And usually in games like this, when it gets a little dirty, Jalen Brown shows up and Jason Tatum goes, look, ghost. But at the end of day, I'm looking at these names, and your boy didn't even play. Play. What's his name? I don't see Chris staff pausing is on here. Am I. Am I tripping? [00:11:34] Speaker A: You might be. I don't memorize rosters or anything. [00:11:37] Speaker B: I'm looking at the stats. I don't see any stats for Christophe. So if he didn't play or I messed up something in the process. Looking these stats, man, selves is gonna win. The selves are gonna win the series in like maybe five games. [00:11:48] Speaker A: I believe you. [00:11:49] Speaker B: Yes. It's not gonna be that close, all right? They don't win this year. They gonna. They can blow that team up. [00:11:54] Speaker A: Let's go. Where are we going next? Eastern Conference semifinals. Game two or not. Game two. Game three, pacers, knicks. [00:12:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Let's go down. [00:12:03] Speaker A: All right. What you think happens here? You got Jalen Brunson being. [00:12:11] Speaker B: Whatever aid for Dallas. [00:12:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:13] Speaker B: They let him go and chose to get Kyrie. And I always said, why? That's your homegone product. He had no problem being a second fiddle to Luca. And now who knows what y'all could have been? Cause I'm sorry. He actually plays defense. Sorry, Kyrie. You don't play defense. [00:12:28] Speaker A: No, he doesn't. You. I tried to do one of those, like, player props things on Kyrie, and it was, you know, you always just assume Luka's gonna hit his 30 points or whatever. So it's like, luca, 30 with ten assists, then I hit like, kyrie 20, then four assists, and he just. He hit four assists. I was like, that's a good day. Yeah. Like, two rebounds, that's a good day. [00:12:53] Speaker B: No steals or one steal because somebody deflected and he got it. [00:12:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, hey. Caught the ball. [00:12:57] Speaker B: He can play defense. [00:12:58] Speaker A: He doesn't choose. [00:12:59] Speaker B: He chooses not to. So I just saw in that series with the Knicks and the Pacers. Now. Now is, we can talk about the Knicks. But, man, and they just lost the second game, I want to say. So they down two. They lost 100, 3121 tonight. Jalen Brunson's that guy. But they also have a guy on the other side, Tyrese Halliburton, who's at. [00:13:19] Speaker A: The coming out party, and he put up 34 points tonight. [00:13:22] Speaker B: You know, so he's tough. [00:13:25] Speaker A: I mean, and they, they still lost their New Yorker in Indiana next game. [00:13:31] Speaker B: Yeah, in Indiana. Right. [00:13:32] Speaker A: Let's see. They will be going to the pace. [00:13:35] Speaker B: Okay, so once again, the series doesn't start until someone loses a road game game or someone wins a road game. So they win these two games. Who knows? [00:13:42] Speaker A: But once again, that's true, because if you have somebody like, you know, Halliburton play like that again, I know, once again, I'm just speculating. Sia cam come out and play his normal game. It's a, it's a good game with the Pacers and Knicks. You know, Brunson can't carry the team by himself completely, but it goes to show you that, you know, things can happen. Odds for that are a little similar to mavericks. Thunder. That's -218 plus 180 pacers, actually. Yeah. Pacers at home have the -210 218 advantage. So be that what it is? I think. I think the Knicks are gonna go in there and upset. I think it's gonna become a series because the Knicks are gonna beat the Pacers at home. I think Halliburton is not gonna be able to do that all series win again. [00:14:40] Speaker B: Does the Pacers even win a game? [00:14:41] Speaker A: I think Pacers probably win game one. [00:14:43] Speaker B: Four. [00:14:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Game forwarded at home to keep it a series alive, but just because the Knicks want to win it at home, you know, like they wanted. They want the home crowd to feel the victory. [00:14:55] Speaker B: Not since they felt a home victory been playoff game. I tell you. Here's the x factor, though. They have yet to put Tyrese Halliburton on Jalen Brunson, and he is a. He's a defensive guy. [00:15:09] Speaker A: Okay? [00:15:10] Speaker B: Now, granted, they're probably trying to say, don't do that. Cause you gotta score freaking 40 points. Give her a chance to win. But what if that, what if he's long, man? He's like, what, six'five? [00:15:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:20] Speaker B: And his boy brunch is like, what, six'two? Six'one. [00:15:22] Speaker A: Yeah. He's. I don't want to say short, but he's on the shorter end of the NBA spectrum. [00:15:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Short for NBA guys, not so for us. So I think Pacers win game three. [00:15:34] Speaker A: So I'm going to lean. I'm still leaning with my Knicks. Game three. The Knicks are leading points on the season, rebounds on the season, field goal percentage, three point percentage. I'm in. [00:15:48] Speaker B: I feel you. [00:15:49] Speaker A: I'm in. [00:15:49] Speaker B: And everything's saying, Knicks, but something in the back of my head just says, it's the freakin Knicks, man. They're gonna figure out a way how to mess this up somehow. If not this round, definitely this next round. [00:16:01] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:16:01] Speaker B: It's going to the finals. [00:16:02] Speaker A: They're not gonna win or next. [00:16:04] Speaker B: Go on to the final. [00:16:04] Speaker A: I don't think so. [00:16:05] Speaker B: Okay, so the total. So the cells is gonna beat the Knicks. [00:16:09] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. With how good the Celtics have been, I wouldn't surprise me. If they do, they redeem Tom Brady. Not, you know, the. The blowout Patriots. They redeemed the town that Tom Brady built with an NBA final twice. [00:16:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. Wow. [00:16:25] Speaker A: That. [00:16:26] Speaker B: Yeah, that's your goat. [00:16:27] Speaker A: It is. He is a good. He is a good goat. And then one more game or one more series to go over here, I think your favorite one. Western conference semifinals, game three, Nuggets versus the Timberwolves. As of today, the Nuggets are down two to two to nothing. So we're talking game three, Western Conference semifinals. What do you think? What happened in game one and two? Wire. You know, why are the Nuggets not Anthony Edwards? [00:17:05] Speaker B: We talk about. Dude, we talk about Luca. I think at the Anthony Edwards. Listen to me right here when I say this, and I may be wrong, he's gonna be the face of the NBA after LeBron James retires, not because he's necessarily the most skilled player, but because he wants to be the face. He wants to be that guy. This is a guy who didn't like basketball until he realized he can only go so far in football. He plays football on the court. He's that guy. He made Carl Anthony Towns become, like, good again. [00:17:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Gave him the ability to be open because he's a threat. [00:17:41] Speaker B: I'm not number one, but I'm a great number two. [00:17:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Game one, they both put up 27. Carl Anthony Towns. Yeah. [00:17:49] Speaker B: Scotty Pippen to my Michael Jordan. Not that extreme, you know I'm saying. [00:17:52] Speaker A: Right? Yeah, that's. That's interesting. That. That's two o lead. It's tough. It's very tough. What do you think happens for game three? [00:18:06] Speaker B: It's at Denver, right? Is in Denver. [00:18:11] Speaker A: No, it's at timber wolves. [00:18:12] Speaker B: Hold up, hold up. Please tell me I'm mistaken. The t was one two games in Denver. [00:18:17] Speaker A: Let me go back. We're gonna view the series. Minnesota leads two and. Oh, game three is at Minnesota. So, yeah, it looks like they. [00:18:32] Speaker B: Well, we did say the series looks. [00:18:34] Speaker A: Like they won two away. [00:18:37] Speaker B: We did say a series does become a series. If someone win an away game and. [00:18:41] Speaker A: They won two, they're nothing but consistent. They scored 106 in both games. [00:18:45] Speaker B: Does Jokic get swept? I'm a premise by saying I'm not a. We talked about this before. I'm not a Jokic hater. I like Jokic. I think Jokic is one of the most skilled big men of all time, NBA history. Three time mvp. Right? [00:19:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:01] Speaker B: And I'm not a big LeBron fan. Right. But if LeBron gets swept like this, well, they have his thing with burning effigy where they call that thing. They got to let the doll burning up, burning him up. They'll go crazy. If LeBron down zero two, losing two games at home. [00:19:16] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I'm all over Twitter if LeBron's losing. [00:19:19] Speaker B: What? I know you hate LeBron. [00:19:20] Speaker A: I'm the first person just, you know. [00:19:22] Speaker B: You see what I'm saying, though, right? [00:19:23] Speaker A: Having people writhing in the comments because they just. They think I'm, like, just hating to hate. [00:19:28] Speaker B: I know you hate hate for no reason. But if he does go down three, yo, or get swept, does the narrative change if people start talking negative about him? I think it shouldn't. [00:19:40] Speaker A: I mean, it's gonna change, because that's all people do over the off season is speculate. But then he's gonna come out and he's gonna do his normal career thing. Where he puts up 20, 512 and twelve right, 26 points a game. Ten rebounds, twelve rebounds, ten assist. He's gonna do almost a triple double every game for the season. So if he falters in the playoffs, whatever, he's selling tickets. I mean, they're not gonna. They're not gonna get rid of him or hate on him. [00:20:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:13] Speaker A: He just might need a support cast. Because it's hard to be a big man and win when it win a final. [00:20:20] Speaker B: I feel you. [00:20:21] Speaker A: He's a big defensive guy. He's scoring. He's not scoring. He can score threes, but he's scoring closer shots because he's getting rebounds. And he's like, oh, well, I can just win. [00:20:32] Speaker B: The x factor. We're not going to take into consideration Jamal. Jamal Murray, the point guard. The clutch guy. [00:20:38] Speaker A: Yeah, it hasn't been clutch. [00:20:39] Speaker B: Has been clutch. We score like three points, five points. He threw a freaking pad on the court. [00:20:46] Speaker A: Yeah, he's been all mad. [00:20:47] Speaker B: No one's seen it. [00:20:47] Speaker A: He got a hundred thousand dollar fine for that. [00:20:49] Speaker B: But did they suspend the next game? [00:20:52] Speaker A: No, he got avoided suspension because he suspect. Well, he actually. This thing says he tossed a heating pad and a towel. [00:21:00] Speaker B: And the referees didn't see it. Should have been a tech. [00:21:03] Speaker A: Yeah. No, that they should have lost by more. [00:21:05] Speaker B: So that that means they're in his head. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Yeah, they they might get swept. [00:21:09] Speaker B: They might get swept. Because without him, yoga task, no shot. I don't care how good you are. You can't beat a team like this by yourself. [00:21:16] Speaker A: So odds are -185 for the Timberwolves at home. I think the Timberwolves won game three. Go down, go up. Three to nothing. [00:21:25] Speaker B: I can't even argue. I agree with that 100%. I would love to argue with you, but Anthony. I mean, Carl Anthony, tiles and my boy, the new face of the NBA. They about to stamp this down. I'm not gonna say they win by 26 again. But I can see them winning by double digits. [00:21:39] Speaker A: Okay, that's fair. Who do you see winning the NBA Finals? [00:21:46] Speaker B: Timberwolves. [00:21:48] Speaker A: The Timbs. All right. [00:21:49] Speaker B: I'm sorry. This guy is just look at this picture I'm looking at, man. This guy is grimacing at the camera and making me scared right now as we speak. [00:21:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:57] Speaker B: I could be wrong. It should be the Celtics. It should be the Celtics. [00:22:01] Speaker A: Yeah, but Carl Anthony Towns in this series. He's averaging like 35 points a game. [00:22:06] Speaker B: That's against an MVP. [00:22:07] Speaker A: Right. He is doing it. [00:22:09] Speaker B: So, like I say, his issue. [00:22:11] Speaker A: And Joe Chick, one thing to count, not to counter what you said, but to argue against, like, you know, Joe Chick isn't doing all the things he is still doing. His 20, 412 and ten. Like, it's just. He can't do 40, 25 and 30. [00:22:31] Speaker B: To win this series. Might have to. [00:22:33] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:22:34] Speaker B: Because your boy is not showing up. He's done it before. [00:22:40] Speaker A: Yeah. This is one I think you just can't put on. On Joe Chick alone. Like, it's more on Murray than anyone will. [00:22:46] Speaker B: Some people will say is on him because, I mean, he's the face. But that was LeBron James, let's be honest. [00:22:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Last game he did 16 points, 16 rebounds, eight assists. I mean, I would argue that the. [00:22:57] Speaker B: Should have had two more assists. [00:22:59] Speaker A: I would argue the. There are 16 rebounds. It's like, all right, he's. They're already down. He can't be just putting up a layup. He's got to pass it out. Try to get the three. [00:23:08] Speaker B: I feel you. [00:23:09] Speaker A: I'm not trying to take too much credit for him. That's game two. You know, in game one, they did a little bit better. Not. Not much. It was 99 to 106 instead of 80 to 106. But all that really means is Jojik just scored a little bit more. You know, like, how many points per. [00:23:30] Speaker B: Game does the Denver Nuggets average? I'm pretty sure it's more than 80 something. Like, I'm pretty sure it's substantially more than 80 something. Right. [00:23:38] Speaker A: Yeah. So the defense, they're playing average points per game for the two teams combined are at 215. So, you know, they're right there with, you know, with that points, 113 for points. Four. [00:23:52] Speaker B: Okay, Nuggets, not that 80 and 80. Would you say 86? 80. [00:23:56] Speaker A: And Timberwolves average points for 106. [00:23:58] Speaker B: And they got 106 again. [00:24:00] Speaker A: And that's why I said, say something about consistency, consistent. [00:24:03] Speaker B: And the defense is something they can't deal with. I guess it's too physical, maybe so. I don't know. They need to figure it out because it's not gonna look. It's not gonna look good. You want a championship and have it. How many NBA teams have won a championship, got swept the next year? [00:24:17] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:24:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's happened before. [00:24:20] Speaker A: It usually doesn't. [00:24:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:22] Speaker A: They normally put up some kind of fight, but. But I will say, LeBron, he got swept. I don't know. I don't know if he got sweat, but I will say every time, not every time, but he's been kicked out of the playoffs a lot of times. Yeah. It's the factor being in the league for so long. He's won what, six? [00:24:42] Speaker B: No, he won four championship. [00:24:43] Speaker A: Four. Haha. [00:24:44] Speaker B: He's four and six. He's on purpose. He did on purpose. [00:24:46] Speaker A: Yeah, a little bit. He's won four. Right. And he's been kicked out of the playoffs like 1213 times. [00:24:53] Speaker B: A lot. [00:24:54] Speaker A: There's a good chance he's been swept. [00:24:56] Speaker B: He has been swept. [00:24:58] Speaker A: There's a good chance he's been swept after a championship. [00:25:01] Speaker B: But think about championship. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Maybe use the math teacher. Play the odds. [00:25:05] Speaker B: I feel you. We'll look that up under the date, but it better not happen. Jokic, I'm sorry. [00:25:10] Speaker A: No, that would be it. That would be a crime thing. [00:25:12] Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. [00:25:13] Speaker A: All right, so that'll wrap up the NBA, not draft the NBA playoffs. Talk. [00:25:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:20] Speaker A: Like and subscribe. Holla. All right, after a quick little break, we are back to talk NFL draft. We're going to break, not break down, but we're going to just talk a little bit about what the picks did for the teams. We're not going to go through the whole draft. That would be exhaustive and pointless because most of those guys aren't going to be playing in a couple years or ever. Pretty much half the first round. 15, 1516 picks. Let's start with my saints, the number one overall. [00:25:56] Speaker B: Sorry, who that, sorry, who? That's fair. [00:25:58] Speaker A: That's fair. So the number one overall, Caleb Williams from USC. Quarterback Brown's got the pick. What does that do for them? Obviously they got rid of Justin fields. You know? Is that the right move? You're ahead, football coach. That's why I brought you in to talk about this. This is, I don't know, enough to be like, oh, this is gonna work out or whatever. I know they just got Justin Fields and they're kind of like the browns now where they just recycling quarterbacks. Like going through people, you know, like my, my kids, as the old daddy would say, like, like my kids change clothes. We always got so much damn laundry. But yeah. What, what void does Caleb witness fill? Is it a good fit? He's got some weapons now, so things, I don't see why things are going to be terrible for him. You know, he's got Keenan Allen, DJ Chark. He's got some people. [00:26:58] Speaker B: Got some people. What do you think they drafted? Rome Odeza. [00:27:02] Speaker A: So Romeo Dunze yeah, he's gonna be a good addition. [00:27:05] Speaker B: I understand why they moved on because the whole adage, a quarterback on a rookie deal is like gold. Cause you can sign all type of people. [00:27:13] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:27:14] Speaker B: I'm just. I just wish they got these guys for Justin fields. [00:27:16] Speaker A: They do not have GJ chark. They have DJ Moore. [00:27:19] Speaker B: I'm sorry. Which is better than DJ Shark. Yeah, way better. [00:27:22] Speaker A: We'll take it. [00:27:23] Speaker B: I just wish they gave him a chance to have all these weapons and see what he can do. Now he's gonna be a backup in Pittsburgh. I want to say he plays with Steelers now. Yeah, but I mean, I understand why they did it from analytical cap situation. Being a team who sucks at cap, being the Saints who always under the. Over the cap like a billion dollars. [00:27:40] Speaker A: Right. [00:27:41] Speaker B: Kayla Williams. Is he that guy? I don't know, man. USC quarterback. So finicky. The last guy who was a generational talent was Trevor Lawrence. And has he really been a generational talent? [00:27:51] Speaker A: He's been better than. I mean, he's definitely a Jags quarterback moving forward. [00:27:57] Speaker B: Yeah. But there's no question, like, Mark Brunell. [00:27:59] Speaker A: Is the all time best quarterback and he's also, he's. I mean, granted, we haven't had a quarterback until we just drafted Anthony Richardson and then we. He did the thing that Colts quarterbacks love to do, get hurt. [00:28:12] Speaker B: Go ahead. [00:28:12] Speaker A: Look, he got hurt. [00:28:14] Speaker B: He was a generational quarterback, though. [00:28:15] Speaker A: Right. But he got hurt every single season. [00:28:18] Speaker B: That was GM's fault. [00:28:19] Speaker A: I'm not saying it wasn't. But even so, like, if you can't stay healthy. [00:28:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Type thing. Yeah, I feel you. [00:28:26] Speaker A: The backup ended up having to come in. He got more snaps than Andrew luck ever did. So then at that point. Yeah, they wasted the pick, just like they wasted Trent Richardson's pick. You know, like, I'm sorry if it didn't work out, but it didn't work out. You know, just like. Like Justin Fields. I'm sorry it didn't work out, but it. So they're just moving on. [00:28:47] Speaker B: Moving on. [00:28:48] Speaker A: They traded this man for like a six round. [00:28:50] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [00:28:51] Speaker A: And then they go, what makes it. [00:28:54] Speaker B: Worse is someone off in the second and third round, like a week before. [00:28:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:58] Speaker B: So. [00:28:59] Speaker A: So does he fill the void? I think they're comparing him to Aaron Rodgers. [00:29:03] Speaker B: Yes. Which I guess. I guess everybody who makes these, what you call them, the off balance and off kilter throws, they compared to Aaron Rogers. They compare Zack Wilson to Aaron Rodgers. [00:29:14] Speaker A: Right. [00:29:14] Speaker B: We saw how that worked out. So now I'm not saying Zach Williams and Caleb Williams and Cosmos. What? And what? But let's look at what Kayla William did in college last year. He had Jordan Addison, who's a top, what, 15 pick? [00:29:26] Speaker A: Is last year an anomaly because he played for, like, the first three quarters of the season and then he lost a game, and then he was like, I don't have a reason to play anymore, but. Cause, like, he was good the previous year. [00:29:38] Speaker B: I want my quarterback to want to win. [00:29:41] Speaker A: I do, too. But I also don't want my quarterback to tear his ACL when he's got 15 million on the line. [00:29:47] Speaker B: I want my quarterback to want me to. To have a fit to the point where I gotta take him. Like, I'm not getting off the field, coach. I'm playing. I understand. It's a business. I get it 100%. But that's what makes me worried about him, how much he loves this. Cause that position, you better love it because you're gonna be with it more than with your family, with your wife, with everybody you're involved with. So you better love it. How much does he love it? How much has he grown since he got to college? And I personally would've took Jaden Daniels over. Now, granted, I'm biased, of course, LSU, LSU. But Jaden Daniels has grown exponentially since he was at Arizona State. And that growth shows me he can continue to grow. It's like Josh Allen. He grew when he was at, what, North Dakota State, where he was. And then he got to the league and he started growing more. If a guy is capped out now, well, I guess what the Bills have. I mean, the Bills, what the Bears have around him, he still could be a good quarterback, but number one overall, you spoil it, like, too bold, like five years, okay? That's what it's supposed to be. [00:30:48] Speaker A: I'd love. I'd love to see what kind of, like, transition he's gonna have from college to the NFL. Like, what is his rookie season gonna look like? Cause it's very hard for a, any rookie to come in and have a monster season, especially a quarterback, because, like, if you're the running back, it's like, all right, I just got to do one thing. I gotta be good at my thing. I don't have to, like, manage the whole game. I don't have to learn, be a team leader, right? I don't have to be a locker room guy, and I can just be a running back or I can just be a tight end or a safety or whatever this is, you know, that's kind of the thing. That's why the first, the quarterbacks always paid the highest. It's why the draft picks, that's why they always get them. Yeah, I'm interested to see it. But you mentioned Jaden Daniels. Let's move to number two. [00:31:33] Speaker B: Yes. [00:31:34] Speaker A: The commanders. This is interesting. [00:31:37] Speaker B: Scary. [00:31:38] Speaker A: They got a brand new coach, brand new owner. Brand new owner. Okay, so it's not the old commanders. I hope you write not the bad. [00:31:47] Speaker B: I hope you're right. [00:31:49] Speaker A: You know, bad structure, if you want to say offensive coordinary coordinator Cliff Kingsbury. [00:31:57] Speaker B: Okay. [00:31:58] Speaker A: Jaden Daniel, second overall pick. People are compare, not people. Matt Miller, specifically on ESPN, is comparing him to Lamar Jackson. Very lazy running ability. [00:32:10] Speaker B: Come on, man. [00:32:11] Speaker A: Throwing. I see. I disagree with this because I think his throwing abilities way better than Lamar. But he's also smaller than Lamar. [00:32:20] Speaker B: Yes. [00:32:20] Speaker A: Like, he's a thin dude. He's a small quarterback. As far as, like, frame. [00:32:24] Speaker B: What? [00:32:25] Speaker A: Frame? Yeah, like, he's tall and he's only too tin. [00:32:28] Speaker B: Like a buck 70 when he got started college. $260.70. So he gained about 40 pounds. [00:32:33] Speaker A: Six four. [00:32:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:34] Speaker A: Very tall. Good. Good for the NFL. That's what you want. I say very tall. Very tall. From my perspective. [00:32:41] Speaker B: Six foot tall for me, too. [00:32:42] Speaker A: I'd be like, damn, that dude's tall. That's a nice little bit of height, but, yeah. Seattle didn't really have, you know, much in the quarterback department last year, so I think this is definitely an improvement for them. Yeah, it fills the, the void they needed, even if, like, you don't like them, you know, or like the, the team he, they drafted in the first round a couple years ago. Terry McLaurin did. [00:33:06] Speaker B: Receivers. Scary. Terry. [00:33:07] Speaker A: Yes. Gary Terry, Ohio State. Yeah, I think so. [00:33:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:11] Speaker A: And Jahan Dotson, I like him. So they got some, some people. He has a good long ball. Jaden Daniels, he, he ranked first in yards per completion. College football, man. And his bids, because he wasn't doing, like, the six, you know, the six yard slant pass, the check down, whatever you call it. He was completing long passes more often than not. I think it was like eleven or twelve yards, which they also said that one of the, the downsides of him is he's sometimes too quick, you know, too quick to just run out of the pocket because he thinks it's. It's ruined or too quick to just release the ball. So, yeah, I think that's something that they can definitely sculpt. But can the commanders sculpt? It is my question to you. [00:33:59] Speaker B: Great question. New ownership, I guess you say a better coach. But it's Dan Quinn. I say he's not good. I hate the Falcons. I hate the Falcons. I hate the Falcons. So anything falcon related? I hate the Falcons. It sucks. [00:34:13] Speaker A: It's fair, but 28 to three Super bowl. [00:34:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Yes. Don't let me remember no Super bowl victories anyways. But I want to have faith. Cause I like Jaden Daniels. I have personal reasons why I like Jaden Daniels. It's a long story. [00:34:28] Speaker A: Can't get into it outside of the bias or this. Adds that, adds that, adds to the bias. All right, that's fair. Whatever. [00:34:34] Speaker B: But if I take the bias away, he is quick to throw it, and he likes to show everybody how tough he is by now sliding and he's slight of frame. So that guy's a little scary because the reskins. Olan. I'm sorry. The commanders. Olan. It's pretty terrible. [00:34:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Imagine somebody like Aaron, I know he retired, but like, somebody like Aaron Donald, 210 pound rap. Yeah. I'm sorry. [00:34:55] Speaker B: You're sorry. [00:34:56] Speaker A: You're concussed, sir. Yeah. They broke down Anthony Richardson with some, some shoulder injuries. 45, and he's a big dude. [00:35:03] Speaker B: Six. 4245. [00:35:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:05] Speaker B: So that has me worried. The old line's terrible. The skills position, they got the Robinson kid from Bama. They got the receivers like you said. [00:35:13] Speaker A: Yep. [00:35:15] Speaker B: But my question is, who are they going to stop? And he's going to be on that field for a long time. The defense is terrible. Passing the ball a lot. The old line's terrible. I hope he makes this season. That's why I was worried about him going there. I hope make do the season. Like, he's going to take some shots. [00:35:30] Speaker A: Yeah, like Joe, maybe like Joe Burrow because their offensive line was trash when he got drafted. [00:35:33] Speaker B: ACL comes back with lines better than take, takes him somewhere. I will hope because, I mean, that. [00:35:38] Speaker A: Would be like, we don't hope that for anybody, but, but I understand why it would happen. Right, exactly. [00:35:44] Speaker B: Come on, man. Like you got, we gotta stop this thing where even clue and Joe Burrow is not because the black or white quarterback is an athletic quarterback. Just cause a guy's athletic doesn't mean the old line could be sorry. [00:35:55] Speaker A: Yeah. He can't just run away and get out. [00:35:57] Speaker B: Imagine how great he'll be with a good old line. [00:35:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Think. I think he's gonna have a good career. I don't think he's gonna fade away into nothing. I think the next pick in the draft. [00:36:09] Speaker B: You hate him, right. [00:36:09] Speaker A: Is going to fade away into nothing. I do not think Drake may is that dude. [00:36:14] Speaker B: Why not? [00:36:18] Speaker A: I'm just not a fan. They're comparing him to Justin Herbert. And if anything, the NFL is proven that Justin Herbert is somebody you can beat at the very least, definitely the playoffs. Yeah. Like if he makes it, they say he extends plays and, you know, he finds a way. But this is not college football. Like we've seen, there's, how many teams in college football? How many, how many teams have bad. [00:36:46] Speaker B: Schedules and who hit what's the acc? So who he played like Florida State, Clemson, who's no longer good. [00:36:54] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:36:55] Speaker B: Like, so what, what great defense has he seen? That's why I like Jaden Daniels because. [00:37:00] Speaker A: And he's going to a completely scalped, in my opinion, Patriots squad. [00:37:07] Speaker B: Who's the number one receiver? [00:37:09] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:37:10] Speaker B: Got that. [00:37:10] Speaker A: Running back Stevenson Jacoby Brissette is their current starter. [00:37:13] Speaker B: Okay. [00:37:14] Speaker A: Okay. He's a good. Colts had him as a starter. [00:37:17] Speaker B: Like a bridge guy. Right? [00:37:18] Speaker A: We had him as a bridge guy. Between Rivers and Richardson are before Rivers until Rivers and two Richardson. He's a good guy. I think given like enough time, Brissette could probably lead a team kind of like a baker did, like a resurgence. [00:37:35] Speaker B: How many wins would he lead this team to? [00:37:38] Speaker A: Oh, this one not many for, but we didn't have Pittman and he did fine, but we had Taylor. So it was a good running game. Make, make him worried. So they gave him time to run. I don't know about Drake, May. This one's weird. They don't have a great team on offense. Bill Belichick had the team constructed, you know, based on value. It was a lot of utilizing veterans that had some gas left in the tank, you know, utilizing people at strong positions. That's why he's such a great coach. Now it seems as though the Patriots are not coachless, but they're spiritless. Like, there's nothing that's saying, like, oh, that's who the Patriots are. That's the kind of thing that they do and they do it well. Like, they're still looking for who they are as a new team without their 20 year dynasty. Because as soon as Tom left and then Bill not outed by any stance, but as soon as Bill just didn't have the weapons, like, you can build a team around Patrick Roholmes, give him people, he'll do it. Tom Brady's the same way. You didn't give Bill enough time after Tom to get weapons to go build the whole thing again. [00:38:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:52] Speaker A: So I just think that your fizzle out from Drake May is going to be partially due to him being in a bad situation for himself, but it's also partially due to the Patriots having no direction, or at least in my opinion, no clear direction, who's like, in a fantasy perspective, I got like dynasty drafts coming up. Yeah, I tanked last year. I hold like multiple first round picks. Drake mays nowhere on my radar. And it's nothing against him. It's that gets Morgan like, this guy we don't like. It's more about the Patriots than it is about him because it's just, it's almost like they should draft a bunch of defensive offensive people and just let Brissette do. Yeah. [00:39:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:35] Speaker A: While they can, while they're bad. [00:39:38] Speaker B: But here's the thing. You replace Belichick with a new coach who played for Belichick and I think the owner craft, I think it is, he wants to prove that he can win without Belichick. [00:39:54] Speaker A: Yeah, they do want that. [00:39:56] Speaker B: So. But like you said, I don't dislike the guy as much as you. I just don't know the guy. [00:40:02] Speaker A: I don't necessarily dislike him. [00:40:03] Speaker B: Well, you don't just. [00:40:04] Speaker A: I just dislike his situation. [00:40:06] Speaker B: Situation. So if he went with, if he went to like the Cowboys, who was ready made team, listen to a quarterback. [00:40:12] Speaker A: He like him, then yeah, quote unquote need a quarterback. I'm just, I don't think that's near their only problem. [00:40:18] Speaker B: Let's say Patrick Mahomes goes down, you get him to play quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. That's a great ram program. Great Ram team. Andy Reid, is he that guy then? Oh, you think? [00:40:28] Speaker A: He's still probably not, I think. But also I think that the Chiefs are that anomaly team that they run such a weird. It's a good program, but it's such a. To Patrick Mahomes, but strength. [00:40:41] Speaker B: Well, I hate to disagree. Your boy did the same thing with Aunt McNabb. He wore the Eagles McNabb. This wasn't as good as Mahomes. He choked in Super Bowls and NFC championships. But think about the Eagles team. He built that machine that just keep on turning because the system is a little quirky. It's innovative. I'm not saying that Drake May would go to Kansas City and be that guy, but I think with a structure like that, with a coach like that, I think he wouldn't be as bad as we think he would be with the freaking Patriots. You don't draft the quarterback when you got your team unless you plan on sitting his butt the whole year. What if they sit him the whole year. [00:41:20] Speaker A: Well, then they, then Jacoby Brissette can just throw it to Kendrick Bourne and KJ Osborne. [00:41:25] Speaker B: That's the receivers. Yeah, that's the morning too. [00:41:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:28] Speaker B: Oh my God. [00:41:29] Speaker A: Just deep threats. [00:41:30] Speaker B: They're like three and fours on other teams. [00:41:32] Speaker A: Well they're, they're good deep threats, but they, if that's all you got, they don't have, like, they don't have a whole team. That's my argument. They just don't have a whole team around it. [00:41:42] Speaker B: So why draft the quarterback right now? [00:41:43] Speaker A: I don't agree with it. All right, let's move on. Cuz we've been harping about this dude, hating on him for no reason, for way too long. All right, number four over the son of one of my favorite players ever. [00:41:55] Speaker B: Why? Cuz he colts. [00:41:56] Speaker A: Cuz he's a colt. Marvin Harrison junior. I prayed that we would find a way to trail him. This guy, a legacy guy we got, we do. We have Reggie Wayne as our, one of our coaches. [00:42:07] Speaker B: Like, you gotta get this guy. [00:42:08] Speaker A: Yes, I think so too. But also I believe that the Cardinals weren't, they're like, now we got Marvin Harrison before and like if somebody would have picked him before, they'd be stupid because argue that Drake, that Drake may should have are that Marvin Harrison should have gone to the Patriots on the ball to code or set right now. So it would be dumb for the, any of the other teams to pick him. So I don't think the Cardinals would have come off this pick regardless. They were probably asked and it would have cost somebody dearly. [00:42:43] Speaker B: I heard somebody gave him a hell of a whole, there's like, nah, and. [00:42:46] Speaker A: This dude's not even, this dude smart. He's not even signing his licensing agreement for the jersey. He straight, he's waiting for that Caitlin Clark hype to die down, this demand to rise on his name and then when he signs it, things just gonna sell out. Smart guy, what do you think about the Cardinals? The fit the Cardinals have given up on Josh Rosen after a year went ahead and took the menacing toddler, Kyler Murray. [00:43:14] Speaker B: Yeah, the toddler. [00:43:16] Speaker A: But they went and tanked to rebound and get a gigantic, once again in my perspective, gigantic six 3210 pounds. Marvin Harrison junior, who is fast, he's a bigger version of his dad and I think he could be better. [00:43:33] Speaker B: Yeah, cuz he's six three. That was like what? [00:43:35] Speaker A: 510, 511 and yeah, 511. 510 5180. [00:43:41] Speaker B: Quick fast guy. [00:43:42] Speaker A: Matt Miller is doing, has a criminal, is a criminal. [00:43:46] Speaker B: Please stop Matt Miller with these. Sorry ass comparisons. Come on. AJ green. [00:43:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Matt Miller. You need to chill with the AJ Green. [00:43:53] Speaker B: Is that the floor comparison? [00:43:55] Speaker A: I don't know, because they're given. Drake made the comparison of Justin Herbert and Caleb Williams, the Aaron Rodgers. So I think they're giving them the ceilings. So, I mean, AJ Green's consistent for a long time, but I think this. [00:44:08] Speaker B: Guy'S gonna be, he wasn't the best receiving his own draft. Julio Jones. Julio Jones. [00:44:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:14] Speaker A: Julio Jones was easily the best receiver in this draft. [00:44:18] Speaker B: Yes. Live and close. Even though some people argue that, you know, Mill, come on, Spartan. Go Spartans. Malik Nabis was right there. One eight. He's a yak guy. [00:44:33] Speaker A: I mean, he was drafted as a second wide receiver, which is pretty crazy. [00:44:36] Speaker B: This is a guy. We'll get that later. We'll get to later. [00:44:38] Speaker A: So coupling that up, you know, the, you got Marvin Harrison, junior Kyler Murray. He's the obvious number one wide receiver. One. What do you think that means for the team? You know, does it help them enough to like, put, put the team together this year? They've been crafty on the ground. They've got, you know, a decent. Kylo Murray's is not the biggest quarterback on the planet, and he hasn't been, like, hurt his whole career. You know, they got a decent line. [00:45:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:08] Speaker A: What do you think is going to happen this season with them? [00:45:11] Speaker B: One or two things going to happen. Either he legitimizes calamari as a quarterback because he has a legit, no number one receiver. Cause I don't think this guy can know, where possible, be a bus. I think, bare minimum, he's AJ Green, which is a 5678 time pro Bowler. So he legitimizes Kyler Murray as an actual quarterback because he got weapons better. [00:45:31] Speaker A: Than Larry Fitzgerald or the new Larry Fitzgerald. He's bigger than Larry. [00:45:40] Speaker B: Larry's about 220. Man. [00:45:42] Speaker A: Is he. [00:45:42] Speaker B: Larry was a big ass dude. [00:45:43] Speaker A: Was he 220 coming in as a rookie? [00:45:45] Speaker B: About 215. [00:45:46] Speaker A: Okay. [00:45:48] Speaker B: Larry was nowhere near as fast as him, though. [00:45:50] Speaker A: But I think Larry just never dropped a ball. [00:45:52] Speaker B: Never in his routes. I don't know, Harrison routes are crispy. [00:45:56] Speaker A: So I think, I think I'm excited to see it. [00:45:58] Speaker B: I am, too. So. But the flip side is, if he, if Kyle Murray doesn't do well with this team and they win like four games, he's gone. He's gone. They're going to draft the quarterback next year. If you can't win, if you can't be a quarterback with this type of receiver. [00:46:12] Speaker A: Right. But if they drive, if they don't lean on. If they don't, just let Kyler Murray do like and play and like keep him. Name a quarterback from the next draft class. Right now I can't write, okay, because all of them win. [00:46:27] Speaker B: So there's no quarterbacks coming next year. What about you after that? [00:46:30] Speaker A: Is it worth wasting half the dudes Ricky contract? [00:46:33] Speaker B: I agree. [00:46:34] Speaker A: Half the number one receiver, but they're not ever. But the number one receiver in this. [00:46:38] Speaker B: Draft, crap load of money right now. [00:46:39] Speaker A: That's why you have to keep him because you got a weapon, a cheap weapon. He may not, he did good his first two seasons. [00:46:48] Speaker B: Like Kyle Murray when he plays his game. When he plays his game. [00:46:52] Speaker A: But they need to let him. Just like they needed to let Justin fields play. Exactly. [00:46:56] Speaker B: Exactly. Let him play his game. [00:46:57] Speaker A: All right, let's move on. Offensive tackle, fifth overall pick Joe alt from Notre Dame. The Fighting Irish fought his way up, up the draft. Fifth overall is high. [00:47:10] Speaker B: Grown man. Six, 9321. Good guy. Yeah, it's a grown man. [00:47:15] Speaker A: They say he's long and quick, athletic. That's good. You always want to see an athletic. No, his dad played 320 guy. [00:47:22] Speaker B: His dad played in the league for like ten years. [00:47:23] Speaker A: What was his dad's name? I think it played John alt. [00:47:26] Speaker B: I think it's something like that, to be honest with you. I didn't want to say that, but I think it is John old, I think he played for like the, might have been a cult of the tight. [00:47:34] Speaker A: Oh, I'm right, it's John alt. [00:47:36] Speaker B: What team? [00:47:38] Speaker A: Dang, I don't remember. Yeah, John Joe alt. John alt. Family of the NFL. You don't, you get a lot more that nowadays. [00:47:45] Speaker B: That's true, that's true. [00:47:47] Speaker A: He was when, let's see, went to the University of Iowa. He played for the Chiefs. [00:47:53] Speaker B: Okay, so I was a good team. [00:47:55] Speaker A: 21St overall. Pig. [00:47:56] Speaker B: So he was good. So he knows the game. I wanted the Saints to trade up to get this. [00:48:00] Speaker A: Little Joe said, take that, dad. [00:48:01] Speaker B: Take that, dad. [00:48:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I wish the Saints to trade up, got this offensive tackle. If you're talking about like Justin Herbert not ever performing, this helps. [00:48:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:13] Speaker A: At least like on paper. [00:48:15] Speaker B: We know we're going to run the ball with your boy harbor now because look at that big ass dude. [00:48:18] Speaker A: Yeah. And they went like they, they gave away everybody in the wide receiver room. They got rid of Keenan Allen. [00:48:26] Speaker B: Yeah. They give everybody did draft anybody not. [00:48:30] Speaker A: Not early who he torn to. So they bought Josh Palmer. [00:48:36] Speaker B: Cause your boy's gone. [00:48:38] Speaker A: Austin Eckler went, guess who you play for the commanders. Yeah. [00:48:41] Speaker B: That's another weapon for your boy. Jaden Daniels. [00:48:43] Speaker A: Yeah. He was catching like, 2020 passes a game. Yeah. Give Jayden Daniels a little dump. [00:48:50] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:48:51] Speaker A: But the problem is the dump for Jayden Daniels is a 13 yard out route. [00:48:56] Speaker B: Come back, man. You're too deep. You're not deep enough. Go out further. Go out further. Yeah. [00:48:59] Speaker A: Did you, like, shake your feet a little bit so they don't think you doing a button hook? No. Joe Alt is going to be a good addition for Justin Herbert. Good addition for the weapons. Josh Palmer, Quentin Johnson, I think another one of the wider songs I picked last year, right? Yeah, he was. Josh Palmer's good. He just signed like a three year extension. That's two he has the opportunity to get. I think DJ Chark is actually with the Chargers. [00:49:24] Speaker B: You still on that? [00:49:25] Speaker A: I'm telling you because I looked at it earlier and that's pretty much what I saw. [00:49:31] Speaker B: Okay. [00:49:32] Speaker A: Was DJ chart being somewhere, but that doesn't matter. It is. It is on the charges. Dj chart. [00:49:38] Speaker B: Okay, so that's your three. [00:49:40] Speaker A: Quinton Johnson, Brendan Rice. They got Brendan Rice. Jerry Rice's okay. [00:49:43] Speaker B: Like, I like your name, but you. [00:49:46] Speaker A: Got his big kid, like the 7th round lad. McConkly. McConkie. [00:49:50] Speaker B: Hold up now. Let's talk about ladd. [00:49:52] Speaker A: That's the second round pick number something. [00:49:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, I like him. He's a nice little slot receiver. He's tough and he's not traditional slot. That's like, just shifty, but not fast. You're like a four three. A four four or four three five. Something like that. Something quick. Quick, fast like that. And I like him. Sure hands. So basically what your boy is about. [00:50:11] Speaker A: To do is second overall. Second round. [00:50:13] Speaker B: Okay. So that's basically almost the first round pick, but it's not. Yeah. No. Guaranteed fifth year contract. But your boy is going to run the ball and then play action out the slot. Quentin Johnson, that's his name. Quinton Johnson is going to be a deep threat. And Palmer's the everything guy. [00:50:27] Speaker A: Yeah, but if you can use Brendan Rice as a good blocking back or a good blocking tight end, he's terrible. Shape him. [00:50:36] Speaker B: If he wasn't, build him up. If he wasn't Jerry Rice son, would we still be talking about him right now? [00:50:39] Speaker A: No, probably not. [00:50:40] Speaker B: Okay, let's get to it. [00:50:41] Speaker A: He wouldn't. Probably wouldn't have gotten drafted at all. [00:50:43] Speaker B: It's like Barry Sanders son. [00:50:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Fair. Um. All right, Joel, it's going to be successful. He's going to help that run first offense in the Chargers. Let's go to the LSU alum, the como high alum. [00:50:56] Speaker B: Go kobo. [00:50:57] Speaker A: Malik neighbors, sponsors. Six foot, 200 pounds, 6th overall pick. He was a good. A good accent to Jaden Daniels onslaught. It's. It's good to see him. He'll be with the Giants. The Giants still have Daniel Jones, but they finally got him a good weapon. Okay, so it's time for Daniel Jones to prove, yes. Nut up or shut up time. Because, I mean, when you have Darius Slayton and, you know, you're all. You've been dealing with the OBJ controversy. Like, you know, like, you come in dealing with just problems. [00:51:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:37] Speaker A: You can't really do anything. You look at the stats of Daniel Jones. He has not done absolutely. He's not done terribly. [00:51:44] Speaker B: What's his biggest? [00:51:45] Speaker A: His middling, for sure, but he hasn't had weapons. [00:51:48] Speaker B: Got a fat contract. You get a fat contract. You got me more than middling. [00:51:52] Speaker A: You're right. Jalen Hyatt and Juan Dale Robinson are the wide receivers that Malik neighbors is automatically gonna step in front of. But he's a second overall wide receiver. [00:52:08] Speaker B: That's true. [00:52:09] Speaker A: It's great for us. [00:52:10] Speaker B: Just two picks later. [00:52:11] Speaker A: I mean, he's a good route runner. Matt Miller's crazy, saying he's Jalen Waddle. [00:52:18] Speaker B: Somebody please fire Matt Miller. Jalen Wattle is a buck 80. Fast as. I don't know what guy at Bama. He was a deep threat. This guy is a yak guy. His routes are good, but he has room to improve. Many neighbors. He's a. I'm gonna catch that ball. Come tackle me. Cause he has speed. He's tough to tackle. He runs like a running back once he gets the ball in his hands. [00:52:38] Speaker A: So a lot of times we see rookie wide receivers that are projected to be, like, the only option we see. Those guys perform really well just because they can fit. They have to. [00:52:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:50] Speaker A: So I'm excited to see Malik Nabors play. I think it's gonna be a good season for him, and it's gonna. It's gonna be as like, it's gonna be that. That kind of career where it's gonna be forced. He's gonna be forced to be good early. [00:53:01] Speaker B: What's a good season for him? [00:53:03] Speaker A: Thousand yards. [00:53:04] Speaker B: Do you think that's possible? [00:53:05] Speaker A: They were doing like, 17 games now. [00:53:07] Speaker B: Cliche. You're right. [00:53:09] Speaker A: It's easy. And I'm not saying easy, but it's way easier to pull a thousand yards out your ass. [00:53:12] Speaker B: Like, what, 60 yards a game? [00:53:14] Speaker A: Yeah. 60, 70 yards, no injuries, just play clean. [00:53:18] Speaker B: Yeah, he's been healthy throughout his career at LSU. Once again, I'm biased cause he graduated from the school I graduated from. Go Spartans. [00:53:28] Speaker A: I graduated there, too. [00:53:29] Speaker B: I know. I wanted to say that, too. [00:53:32] Speaker A: Let's move on to the surefire. Alabama, as always, getting first round draft picks. Offensive tackle. JC latham, 66342, 7th overall. Big boy. Who's he going to help? How's he going to help the Titans? [00:53:48] Speaker B: Who's the new coach for Titans now? Your boy got fired, so. [00:53:51] Speaker A: That's true. Brian Callahan. [00:53:54] Speaker B: Oh, my God. So he's going to run the ball a lot. He's the old line coach for the Raiders that played. Yeah, they got beat the hell down on that Super bowl, so, yeah, he's going to run. He better run the ball because his pass block is a little suspect. [00:54:06] Speaker A: So they are going to need him to play left tackle is what I'm reading, and he's never played a snap at left tackle. Yeah. So we'll see what happens with that. I don't know how he's going to help the Titans much, but he's definitely going to be utilized. [00:54:23] Speaker B: The Titans think that will levers is that guy. They've given him receivers. They sign Ridley to that fat contract away from the. Who really played for it. Yeah, before. I forgot who he played for. Jacksonville. [00:54:37] Speaker A: Yeah, Jacksonville. I was thinking Atlanta, but it was before that. [00:54:40] Speaker B: Yeah. And so they got him. They got your boy, Hopkins. Still. They got that tight end. [00:54:46] Speaker A: I forget. You got old. [00:54:46] Speaker B: Exactly. They got that tight end. I forget his name. Something. I forget his name. Yeah, it's a long name I can't pronounce. Did you just, like I did say Okotoka took. [00:54:55] Speaker A: I didn't click and clock till I thought you clicked. I'm sorry. [00:54:58] Speaker B: I'm not gonna click fair, but, no. [00:55:05] Speaker A: I definitely get what you say. They got in the dude a bunch of weapons, and they didn't. They're there, but at least. At least they're hedging everything on the dude. They're not, like, giving him no chances. And then, like, the bears, right? [00:55:18] Speaker B: Okay. [00:55:18] Speaker A: They're. They're building something to give the guy a chance, and if it implodes. Yeah, well, they're gonna restart anyway. They're gonna fuck it up. Maybe. All right, let's move on. Another quarterback selected number eight overall, Michael Penis, junior Pennix, junior to the Falcons. Came out of Washington. [00:55:36] Speaker B: I love the Falcons. They're so terrible. [00:55:38] Speaker A: Left handed quarterback, and they just went lazy as hell with the comparison here. [00:55:43] Speaker B: Under the left handed quarterback. Come on, man. [00:55:45] Speaker A: Yeah, to actually I did not think was gonna pan out. [00:55:49] Speaker B: Stronger arm than to this dude throwing piss rockets into a hell of a pop gun. [00:55:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:54] Speaker B: Matt Miller. I'm sorry if you hear this. You fired. [00:55:57] Speaker A: You wish. Yeah, he's got our arm strength. Led the nation in passing yards. He can read a defense better than me on Madden. Well, better than you on Madden. [00:56:10] Speaker B: Like the guy. [00:56:11] Speaker A: He's good actually. [00:56:14] Speaker B: I love the pic cuz it's stupid in the division. [00:56:16] Speaker A: And he's healthy now. The last two seasons. Yeah. Missed a game. Which is like, that's what you want. [00:56:22] Speaker B: But why pay a guy $180 million and then draft the quarterback? Number eight. [00:56:26] Speaker A: Yeah. So he'll be coming in behind Kirk. [00:56:28] Speaker B: Cousins, old man Kirk riches quarterback history NFL. [00:56:32] Speaker A: And just sign. All he does is sign fully guaranteed contracts. [00:56:34] Speaker B: I want him to be my lawyer. [00:56:37] Speaker A: Got a hundred million off a torn ACL. [00:56:38] Speaker B: Good guy. 180, bro. Hunger guaranteed. [00:56:42] Speaker A: Let's do it. [00:56:42] Speaker B: Good guy. [00:56:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Pinix is gonna waste a few years there. [00:56:45] Speaker B: So how many years they sit him? [00:56:48] Speaker A: Cousins is always good enough to play. Cousins is net. Like I can. I cannot remember a performance. Top ten quarterback consistently top 15. [00:56:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I get that. [00:56:58] Speaker A: 15 every season. His stats are right there with like he's easy. Some of his stats every season are in the top ten. [00:57:05] Speaker B: Tourniquet. He leaves Falcons. O line is not that. [00:57:09] Speaker A: I don't know. I watched him on hard knocks last season. I think that's. Yeah, he was on hard knocks. [00:57:13] Speaker B: Yeah, he's a good guy, dude. [00:57:14] Speaker A: It made me love him. [00:57:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I love him. [00:57:16] Speaker A: His wife, his family, all those kids, everything. It was like, damn. I want this dude to succeed. [00:57:20] Speaker B: I actually love. He's a Falcons quarterback. I know he's not going to Super bowl with no cook Herzls. [00:57:23] Speaker A: That's funny. [00:57:24] Speaker B: I hate the freaking Falcons. [00:57:26] Speaker A: But we're not. Y'all aren't going to Super bowl anytime soon either. [00:57:28] Speaker B: No, I feel you. But as long as they don't win. [00:57:30] Speaker A: That'S all you want. [00:57:31] Speaker B: Like the bucket is going to win. The Panthers. Man f the Falcons. I hate the freaking Falcons. [00:57:36] Speaker A: Fair. All right. Another wide receiver came off the board on the 9th overall pick. It was Romo Dunze. Gonna be a complimentary, I think immediate number one to. Well, no, you got Keenan Allen, Key. [00:57:49] Speaker B: Allen and DJ Moore. [00:57:50] Speaker A: Yeah, he's probably gonna be a slot. [00:57:52] Speaker B: Yeah, a slot. They're gonna work him in. He's not gonna have a good season because he's not get a lot of targets. [00:57:56] Speaker A: No, you're right. But he's going to be a well needed addition in that locker room. Now you have Caleb Williams, you got Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Romo Dunze, you've got the tight ends. Gerald Everett, Cole, Comet. Cole, Comet. He is a sneaky top five tight end. [00:58:13] Speaker B: I like him. He's huge. I think he was two freaking 70. [00:58:16] Speaker A: Yep. [00:58:17] Speaker B: Six. Six. [00:58:18] Speaker A: Very good. Complimentary. They're comparing him to Jamar Chase. And I think if Caleb Williams pans out the ceiling would be somebody like Jamar Chase. [00:58:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I can see that. [00:58:28] Speaker A: But I think he's. Because of the other people around. Keenan Allen's got a couple years left easily. DJ Moore's got years left. He's gonna be. If the team's good, he's gonna be struggling from food. [00:58:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:42] Speaker A: You know, just cuz everybody's gonna be getting target, not no chance to eat. I don't think this is gonna be a run first team by any standpoint. [00:58:48] Speaker B: No. [00:58:48] Speaker A: Unless Caleb Williams is the one doing the right. [00:58:50] Speaker B: You're not signing those guys and grab from that quarterback to run the ball and your running back is freaking swift. Who's a receiver out the backfield. [00:58:57] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:58:57] Speaker B: So yeah, you're going to pass the ball. Some people thought that he was. They thought him neighbors. And Harrison was like one a, one b, one c. I don't think that. I think that he's the third best receiver in the top three. I get it. I agree with the grade. I think he can be that number one receiver in the offense. But it's a blessing and a curse that he's going to the Bears because you get to learn from a freaking pro, Kenny Allen. And he's the best route runner in the NFL, hands down. So you get to learn how to run routes with a pro. DJ Morrow's gonna teach you some things as far as being the speed. So he's gonna learn and grow. Now by year two through year three, he's gonna be that guy. He gonna have to. Because Kenny Allen's like my age. He's like 41. [00:59:36] Speaker A: Yeah, he's gonna. He's 33, but he's gonna have to retire. [00:59:38] Speaker B: He's gonna have to retire. [00:59:40] Speaker A: JJ McCarthy went 10th over all to the Vikings. I think this is a perfect selection for them because he is able to just walk into a system that worked for Kurt Cousins. So if you are just Kirk Cousins, you're gonna have a positive season, a positive career, you're gonna make a bunch of money. And you benefit right now from having Justin Jefferson. Jordan Addison Hawkinson receiving NFL, huh? [01:00:04] Speaker B: Best receiving NFL. [01:00:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. [01:00:07] Speaker B: Okay. [01:00:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Put them on any team. Yeah, I'm an any scheme. Hey, what you more chase him and Jamar. [01:00:14] Speaker B: Chase who? Him or Jamar? [01:00:16] Speaker A: Chase him. We've seen Jamar Chase not catch get games with 1415 targets and get catch five balls. [01:00:26] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. [01:00:27] Speaker A: Just. And I'm not saying it's 100% his fault, but we haven't seen those games. [01:00:31] Speaker B: And your boy has a better quarterback, too. [01:00:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:35] Speaker A: Granted, he's, you know, they've been playing down a lot in his career. It's a different situation. But I just think, Jen, Jeff Jefferson is a better quarterback. [01:00:43] Speaker B: So does he. [01:00:43] Speaker A: JJ McCarthy's only lost one game in his career. [01:00:46] Speaker B: Okay? [01:00:47] Speaker A: He's going to lose a bunch next season. Like what, seven, eight. [01:00:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. Now, my thing is, we say he's cut Carson, but he can run more than Kurt Cousins. [01:00:56] Speaker A: He's not slow. [01:00:56] Speaker B: He's not slow. [01:00:57] Speaker A: He can good ACL, athletic. [01:01:00] Speaker B: He's very athletic. [01:01:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:02] Speaker B: And they say his potential has been tapped because you know hall Barnaball 40 times a game. [01:01:07] Speaker A: Right. [01:01:07] Speaker B: So he's stacked up to win. He has great receiving core. O line's pretty good. [01:01:13] Speaker A: Yep. [01:01:14] Speaker B: Defense sucks. Defense is terrible. But I'd like that defensive core. And then I think he can get the most out of what they have. But then they traded your boy Daniel Hunter to the Texans. I want to say. [01:01:22] Speaker A: Yeah, but they also, the Vikings also drafted an edge rusher. [01:01:25] Speaker B: Who? Dallas Simons, I think. [01:01:28] Speaker A: Yeah, Dallas Turner. [01:01:29] Speaker B: Dallas Turner. But he's not Danielle Hunter. He may be good eventually. He may be good this year, but I know for a fact, Danielle getting me hood is giving me twelve sacks. [01:01:36] Speaker A: He's definitely. But you can get, you can almost guarantee that Dallas Turner is getting, gonna get reps because they're needed. Gonna need him to get reps. [01:01:43] Speaker B: They got nobody else. They got freaking Davenport. The Saints reject, as in other, you. [01:01:47] Speaker A: Know, hey oh, Saints reject. All right, let's go to number eleven, offensive tackle Olu Fashanu from Penn State. Another big boy. Six six three to twelve pounds. That's for the jets. They desperately need somebody to protect the national treasurer. That is Aaron Rodgers. [01:02:05] Speaker B: It's not overkill, though. They just signed two tackles. [01:02:07] Speaker A: I don't care. They need somebody to not have Aaron Rogers going, do experimental smoking surgery to get a body and get a new ACL to be like, repaired in three days so he can start. [01:02:21] Speaker B: But are they all. They're gonna slide him inside of the guard? [01:02:23] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:02:24] Speaker B: Because you don't draft somebody with number eleven overall when you know your quarterback needs another receiver or another weapon. Unless you. This guy's gonna touch the field. [01:02:34] Speaker A: But they're banking. They're banking on Aaron Rodgers doing like he's been able to do his entire career produce off of nothing, off of no one. [01:02:40] Speaker B: Say young Rogers. This is Rogers off in achilles tear, right? [01:02:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Thinking, yeah, but they also, when they went and got Rogers, they went and got all the, all the wide receivers he wanted. [01:02:51] Speaker B: I feel you 100%. [01:02:52] Speaker A: He just never, he literally never got to play with him. He took four snaps. [01:02:56] Speaker B: You know what she was? He got old. Random Zard and old as Randall. Cool, man. [01:03:01] Speaker A: Like, I like Randall Cobb. He. I cut my teeth around. [01:03:07] Speaker B: Malik neighbors. The deep threat, Brian Thomas, what his name is. Why not draft him? [01:03:11] Speaker A: We came by way of Baton Rouge, Louisiana. She did, she did not do it. She did not do herself some service. Miss Thomas did not do herself any service with. With talking on the microphone, unfortunately. All right, let's jump forward to number twelve. We only got a few more. Bo Nicks, quarterback from Oregon, about to be the quarterback for the broncos. [01:03:35] Speaker B: Sean Payton. So arrogant. [01:03:37] Speaker A: They're comparing this dude, Dak Prescott or stop that. [01:03:41] Speaker B: So Sean Payton sees that this guy has set the single record, percentage, completion record, whatever, and he instantly thinks, I can turn him to Drew Brees. [01:03:49] Speaker A: That's funny. [01:03:50] Speaker B: He's not freaking jew breeze. [01:03:51] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's. Is he better than Jared Stidham and Zach Wilson? [01:03:54] Speaker B: Of course I'm better than Jared. Sittin Zach Wilson sign you up. [01:03:58] Speaker A: How much is the league? Minimum. You will endorsements. [01:04:01] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [01:04:02] Speaker A: I promise you right now, y'all can hit me. I don't care. [01:04:04] Speaker B: You can tattoo me and put my ass in a damn casket. Damn, not a casket. Cause I want you to spend it. Yeah. [01:04:08] Speaker A: Yeah. There you go. Why this. This man just said, kill me, don't kill me. Yeah, I think he's gonna be better than Zach Wilson. Better than Jared Stidham. He's obviously gonna at least get the opportunity to lead the Broncos. They have a decent couple, decent people on the offense. You got some Marvin mims. They traded away Jerry. Judy. Judy. [01:04:29] Speaker B: They got something still Courtland. [01:04:31] Speaker A: I believe they sell court. [01:04:32] Speaker B: Okay. [01:04:33] Speaker A: I mean, it's. It's not the most attractive pick in the world, but it gives Sean Payton the opportunity to prove that he's the best coach. Because that's what a bunch of saints people like to say, that Sean Payton is the best coach. And I disagree wholeheartedly. [01:04:47] Speaker B: Not the best all time no, like. [01:04:50] Speaker A: Just a great coach. [01:04:51] Speaker B: I think he's a good coach. [01:04:52] Speaker A: He's a fraud. [01:04:53] Speaker B: No, no, no. Let me explain. I think Sean Payton saw greatness in Drew Brees based on. [01:04:59] Speaker A: Just rode that lightning and rode that. [01:05:01] Speaker B: Lightning as long as he could. Now I have a hall of fame quarterback. They got people who got great quarterbacks who don't win with them. That's true. We won one, and we stayed competitive with a shitty ass defense for, like, 20 years. So I'm biased towards Sean Payton. Read his coaching book, all that, like. But he's an arrogant son of a gun. And he really thinks because this guy completed 77.4% of his passes last year, that's Drew Brees. Now it's freaking bold. I can't get past Auburn, bro. Nicks. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He was ass, man. And they always say he was good and he was ass. So he goes to Oregon, plays lesser talent, and now he's that dude. [01:05:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:40] Speaker B: Sorry. [01:05:41] Speaker A: He might have just pulled some wool just to get a check. Go get your bag, though. I don't care. [01:05:45] Speaker B: Cousins. Junior, baby. Make that money. [01:05:47] Speaker A: What about the 13th? Brock Bowers. He went to the Raiders, which just doesn't really make any sense to tighten. [01:05:54] Speaker B: Last year, didn't they? [01:05:55] Speaker A: With what they need? Yeah, they did. I don't know. They just don't make smart decisions. In my mind. Excuse me. In my mind. [01:06:05] Speaker B: George kittle blocks his. [01:06:06] Speaker A: Ass off this past year. He did. He took. Excuse me. [01:06:09] Speaker B: He took Brock Bowers block like that. [01:06:12] Speaker A: Brock was a receiving guy the past three seasons. [01:06:17] Speaker B: Matt Miller. Listen, hit me up. [01:06:19] Speaker A: We gotta talk, brother. [01:06:20] Speaker B: You gotta talk, man. Like, you mean that you get in that chatter and you just getting lazy on this Matt Miller. But I mean, I like Brock Bowers. Cause he's one of those. I'm not gonna say Travis Kelsey. Cause that's lazy, too. But he's an athletic move. Titan. You're not gonna really have him in line the block. He's gonna be a slot outside, going against the safety, going against the corner, going against a linebacker. I just know who the hell is throwing the ball. Did draft the quarterback. I'm pretty sure they didn't. [01:06:45] Speaker A: Not at the beginning of the draft. [01:06:47] Speaker B: At least we got the kid. Aiden O'Donnell and Gardner Minshew as the quarterbacks. [01:06:52] Speaker A: I like Gardner Minshew. He's a good hype. He's a good hype guy. [01:06:55] Speaker B: I like him as a backup who can get in and play three, four games a whole season. [01:07:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:01] Speaker B: Like y'all did that with the coach, and because he came in and y'all had a good supporting cash, y'all were like, what, ten games? [01:07:07] Speaker A: Yeah, like, but ten games. [01:07:09] Speaker B: That roster was pretty decent. This rocker sucks. [01:07:13] Speaker A: That's true. The only thing you got is Devontae Adams. Yeah, he's. He's probably pissed back cuz he went there. God damn, they traded everybody as soon as I came. [01:07:21] Speaker B: Look out here, the guy, remember, he. [01:07:22] Speaker A: Was the number one y receiver in the NFL, hands down. [01:07:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I like him a lot. I think he's still the more hands down. [01:07:28] Speaker A: All right, let's talk about it. Your favorite pick of the draft, Felice. [01:07:34] Speaker B: Sorry, that's how you say it? [01:07:37] Speaker A: Sure. [01:07:37] Speaker B: Okay, Felice. [01:07:40] Speaker A: Offensive tackle for the Saints, 14th overall. Obviously Quest's favorite team. [01:07:45] Speaker B: Who that? [01:07:46] Speaker A: As mentioned before. Who dat? [01:07:48] Speaker B: Yes. [01:07:49] Speaker A: All right. What you think about Foaga? [01:07:50] Speaker B: A great pick, not a sexy pick. Ryan Ramschek, knee injury. We don't know what's going on. It's a chronic knee injury. It's the same knee injury that made him fall to draft to us in the first place, like 32 overall, and it's starting to catch up to him. Our left tackle, the dude, the Trevor penning guy, which I never understood, why we'll draft a guy from a d two school, top 15 overall has it panned out? This guy can play left or right tackle off. Worst case scenario, guard. He played in the zone blocking scheme, and that's what we're switching to new officer coordinator. Now, I know this is a copycat league, and this guy coached under Shanahan, but if he just half as good as shanahan, we're better than last year. Cause Pete Carmichael last year was ass. [01:08:28] Speaker A: What do you think? Do you think Derek Carr is gonna rebound? Well? [01:08:31] Speaker B: You ready for this? [01:08:32] Speaker A: You paid a bunch of money there, ready for this? [01:08:34] Speaker B: The Saints draft the quarterback in the fifth round, Spencer rattler. [01:08:37] Speaker A: You think rattler's the guy? [01:08:39] Speaker B: I hope. I just got a feeling. Okay, I'm probably wrong. [01:08:43] Speaker A: Sure. [01:08:43] Speaker B: Cause I'm just not sold on Derek Carr. I'm not saying he's bad, but he's worth the money. No. Okay, we pay that type of money, well, he's gotta make a playoff game. [01:08:54] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. And a lot of time gave him a lot of money for. [01:08:57] Speaker B: In his defense. Pete Carmichael was ass last year. [01:09:01] Speaker A: Yeah, you did say that. [01:09:02] Speaker B: Good God. [01:09:03] Speaker A: I remember. [01:09:03] Speaker B: We didn't run screenplay, we didn't run screen passes, we were predictable. Shit, we tried to treat Kamara like he was. Derek can't even remember to attack us all game. [01:09:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. All right, let's wrap it up with the last pick. Are the last pick we're gonna cover. [01:09:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:17] Speaker A: 15Th overall, Latu. Latu from UCLA. An edge rusher, went to the cold name. [01:09:23] Speaker B: Latin. La. True. [01:09:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Lay out to. [01:09:26] Speaker B: Oh, layout two. Okay, layout two. [01:09:28] Speaker A: Lot two. Edge rusher team. [01:09:31] Speaker B: Right. [01:09:32] Speaker A: Shout out, Colts. We actually have a decent team. We got a good offense. [01:09:36] Speaker B: The old line is nice. I like Ola. [01:09:37] Speaker A: We learned after. Well, we didn't learn while we were in the process of killing Andrew Luck, we were developing an old line because we didn't develop it before we got him. [01:09:50] Speaker B: Andrew Luck. Yeah. [01:09:50] Speaker A: Right. Because Peyton was just Stonewall in the pocket. Got the ball. [01:09:54] Speaker B: I got the ball. I got the ball out. [01:09:55] Speaker A: Right. [01:09:55] Speaker B: Jubilee, same thing. Got the ball. I got the ball up right. [01:09:58] Speaker A: Andrew Luck needed a couple minutes, literally, literally couple minutes to decide where he wanted the touchdown, but he went to Stanford. He was good. That's the thing is, like, when he, when he was given the time he wanted, he produced or got. Yeah. I think this is good because our offense is solid. It adds another little bit of depth to our defense. [01:10:21] Speaker B: What ends y'all have right now that's decent? The dude pit Petty from Michigan. [01:10:24] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [01:10:25] Speaker B: And who else? [01:10:27] Speaker A: Lotu probably playing the other side. [01:10:29] Speaker B: So there you go. If it's a need. [01:10:30] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, people were saying Turner might be better than Lotu. I don't think it really matters because everybody's. Different systems are gonna pan out for different people, different ways. [01:10:44] Speaker B: A better athlete, lots. Who's a better football player? [01:10:46] Speaker A: I need, I need the guys that are gonna fit the system better than the guy who just is cute on a draft score card. He fits y'all, and I think this fits with what we got going on. We have a good, good running game, good offensive line, good quarterback. Now that he's going to be back, good receiver core, and then strong defense. You know, we're, we're starting to fade on the defense a little bit, which is why they're doing this. [01:11:10] Speaker B: The boy, man, he just came out of nowhere and just got terrible. All of a sudden, they released him. Gilmore Leonard, man, once he changed his name, he stayed hurt, and now he's, like, terrible. [01:11:21] Speaker A: He retired now. [01:11:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Good guy. He was a beast. [01:11:24] Speaker A: He was like 31, though. [01:11:26] Speaker B: Oh, he came out old. You're right. He did. [01:11:27] Speaker A: He switched his name when he was old. [01:11:29] Speaker B: You're right. [01:11:29] Speaker A: To kind of cloud everybody's judgment. He's like, I'm back. [01:11:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:32] Speaker A: And they're like, but he actually said, I'm my back. [01:11:35] Speaker B: I'm getting old, man. [01:11:36] Speaker A: That's what he was saying. He's like 32 now, I think. Yeah, but yeah. That wraps up the NFL draft, half the first round recap like, like and subscribe, follow all the things. Appreciate it, guys. [01:11:51] Speaker B: That controversial. [01:11:54] Speaker A: Well, I guess it's time to decide. Quest, it's time for our weekly top five this week because we just talked NFL draft. We're going to talk and draft our top five draft picks. You're our special guest, so I'm going to give you the first pick in the draft just in case you don't know how this is going to go. All right, you're gonna draft first. [01:12:21] Speaker B: Okay. [01:12:22] Speaker A: And then I'm gonna take two picks, you, you, then you're gonna take two picks. [01:12:28] Speaker B: Then me, me. [01:12:30] Speaker A: Then I'll take my final two and then you take your fifth and final pick. So it gives us an opportunity to, you know, eliminate people, but also kind of fairness of the, you know, the range of picks you're going to have. But yeah, top five draft picks, whatever that means. What does it mean for you? [01:12:54] Speaker B: For me, it means I'm looking at gyms, guys who no one expected to be good, no one expected them to be what they end up being, which is all these guys on my list. [01:13:04] Speaker A: Are hall of famers like diamonds in the rough. Okay? [01:13:07] Speaker B: My scout team gets a raise because they did their, they did their due diligence and found some guys for us. [01:13:12] Speaker A: Right? Fair. [01:13:14] Speaker B: I just think that's, that's important because, I mean, it's easy to draft patch Mahomes top ten or Caleb Williams number one, but to find Tom Brady in the 6th round, to find, you know, so that's what I wanted to focus on. So to start off, I was, I was baiting because everyone's goat is one guy and my goat is someone else. And this is not because I like the team he was on. I actually hated the team he was on cause I watched them beat the hell out the Saints every weekend. [01:13:41] Speaker A: Every weekend. [01:13:42] Speaker B: Well, not every weekend, but it felt like every, damn, it felt like every weekend. [01:13:45] Speaker A: No, I get it. Sometimes it feels like those seasons where the Saints were losing way more games than they were winning. [01:13:51] Speaker B: Long seasons. [01:13:52] Speaker A: Those were long, long weeks. [01:13:54] Speaker B: Most of those games were up at halftime anyways and somehow lost the game. [01:13:57] Speaker A: Right. [01:13:57] Speaker B: Anyways, so I'm gonna go Joe Montana, number one. [01:14:00] Speaker A: Joe Montana. That's a good pick. [01:14:02] Speaker B: And the reason I know Joe Montana. Joe Montana. And the reason everybody looking like I'm crazy. And about Tom Brady. It's the same reason why everyone argue that Michael Jordan is the goat over LeBron James. Joe Montana is 40. [01:14:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:15] Speaker B: Tom Brady lost to Eli freaking Manning twice. [01:14:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:19] Speaker B: And he only scored 17 points to beat him. [01:14:21] Speaker A: Joe Montania was drafted third round. [01:14:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:25] Speaker A: Second overall. [01:14:25] Speaker B: Yes, sir. [01:14:26] Speaker A: Played for the 49 ers. [01:14:28] Speaker B: And here's the big key, though. Innovative game. Everybody runs the West coast offense. Now, who's the first quarterback to be successful in the west coast offense? [01:14:36] Speaker A: What's a West coast offense? [01:14:37] Speaker B: So, West coast offense. [01:14:38] Speaker A: Because I'm dumb when it comes to. [01:14:40] Speaker B: Stuff predicated on getting yards after the catch, short passes, accurate quarterback. That's why he doesn't have the strongest arm, because he's going to hit show. [01:14:48] Speaker A: So you talking about, like, the end of Drew Brees's career. [01:14:51] Speaker B: Yes. [01:14:51] Speaker A: When he just had to do this. Land the 49 ers right now. [01:14:54] Speaker B: Because that's what purdy does. Get the ball out quick. It's a smart quarterback who can figure things out, and he has to be very accurate. [01:15:01] Speaker A: You're not really caring about who the target is. It's about hitting that target and let them do their job. I'm doing mine, you do yours. [01:15:07] Speaker B: Find open guys quick as possible. My athletes betting your athlete. What's happening. [01:15:12] Speaker A: I like that. [01:15:12] Speaker B: So he was the first quarterback to play in that system, and I think he's innovative and four and o. He's undefeated. Yes. Tom Brady has seven rings, played for 50,000 years. And I get it, you know, but he, he lost to freaking Eli Manning, so I couldn't put him number one because I don't think Eli Manning's a hall of famer. So I put him. So going. My fault. You get the next pick, don't you? [01:15:37] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [01:15:38] Speaker B: My fault. Sorry. [01:15:39] Speaker A: Yep. So. So number one, you have Joe Montana. That's a very good pick. I like it. Three times Super Bowl MVP, four time Super bowl champion. Yeah. Third round pick. It's. It's a diamond in the rough. He had an illustrious career. It's exactly what you want. I'm gonna go with the obvious. You just said, I'm Tom Brady. I mean it. To me, it's. It's simple. Everybody kind of just knows he's the goal goat. Seven time Super bowl champion. I mean, it's. It's an impressive career. He did most of it with the Patriots. [01:16:15] Speaker B: Yes. [01:16:15] Speaker A: Even his losses were astounding. You know, he lost in the playoffs. [01:16:21] Speaker B: Except the ally Manning losses, they were terrible. [01:16:25] Speaker A: He was also bailed out in the playoffs a few times, you know, but it's not a one man sport. [01:16:30] Speaker B: No, no. It's an ultimate team sport. [01:16:32] Speaker A: One man just did a lot for the sport, you know? Seven time. He was a five time Super Bowl MVP, all time leading pass. Crazy. All time passing leader, touchdown leader, three time NFL. [01:16:43] Speaker B: Who's number two? Peyton Jubilees. [01:16:46] Speaker A: Oh, he did pass. [01:16:48] Speaker B: Who that pay? [01:16:50] Speaker A: Manning's number three. [01:16:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:51] Speaker A: Respect Payton. Yeah. 14 time Pro bowl selection, but he was so good, he only had to go to one, like. Yeah, a couple times. You know, that's. That's the. That's one of the things that's really cool. It's like, oh, I'm a 14 time Pro Bowl. I ain't ever seen that place. Yeah, I was worried about playing the games that mattered. You know, the playoffs, Super Bowl. I was winning, and if I wasn't playing in those games, I still didn't care. [01:17:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:19] Speaker A: He's just that dude, I think Tom Brady, you know, all around inspiration to, like, the work workhorse. You know, it's. It's all. All of those reasons and more, you know? It's just. It's strong. I'm gonna go next with. Man, it's already getting tough because there's so many good options, but let's go with Shannon Sharp. [01:17:51] Speaker B: Oh, I like that. [01:17:53] Speaker A: Fantastic tight end. One of the best in NFL history. Caught everything. Hall of fame club. Shay shake, 2011. He's absolutely yoked. [01:18:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:06] Speaker A: Now he's on some other stuff to help. To help it keep up. I get it. [01:18:10] Speaker B: Really? [01:18:11] Speaker A: I'm sure. [01:18:12] Speaker B: Okay. [01:18:12] Speaker A: How do you keep up that? How do you get bigger and stronger as you get older? [01:18:17] Speaker B: Because he has continued his NFL regiment. Like, he's still about to play. That's what he says. [01:18:23] Speaker A: Okay. [01:18:24] Speaker B: Like, when he retired, he stopped everything else, but he kept the workout regiment the same. [01:18:27] Speaker A: Three time Super bowl winner. [01:18:28] Speaker B: Yes. Shannon sharp, big play shape. [01:18:31] Speaker A: I mean, it. It's a great, great position. Probably one of the only tight ends on anybody's list. I mean, there's only a couple more. And I have a. Not a problem, but I have an issue with. It's hard to like Pat Mahomes. Right? It's hard to say that he's that diamond in the rough or the gym or the great draft pick or whatever, because he's not done. Yeah. You know, there's a bunch of good people still playing that deserve to be on a list, but they're not done, so I think that adds a lot. Shannon sharps, my number two. Who do you have for your second and third. [01:19:09] Speaker B: All right, so obviously, second was, like I said, tom Brady. Yeah, for all the things you said. Five times MVP, seven times Super bowl winner, three times NFRVP league, and passing, passing yards. Number two, Jabriz. Who that. So I don't have to go into detail? Cause you did a pretty good job explaining why he's there on the list. [01:19:32] Speaker A: Right? [01:19:33] Speaker B: My number three is the deacon of defense. Deacon Jones. Drafted in a round that don't exist anymore. The 14th round. [01:19:43] Speaker A: Yeah, they had them long rounds back then. [01:19:45] Speaker B: Can you imagine watching the draft for 14 rounds? [01:19:48] Speaker A: And they had the supplemental drafts too. [01:19:49] Speaker B: Yes. [01:19:50] Speaker A: So it was like, 2014 rounds, and then you had another, like, our 15 rounds, then you had another five rounds of supplemental rounds of just draft. [01:19:57] Speaker B: I don't think it was televised back then, so. [01:19:59] Speaker A: No, it's probably on the radio. So they printed it in the paper each morning, and, like, yeah, the definite paper lord. [01:20:05] Speaker B: But Deacon. Deacon Jones is a funny thing to me because he's, like, number four, five, or six all time, but same actually become an official status. Like 1982. [01:20:16] Speaker A: I didn't know that. That's interesting. [01:20:17] Speaker B: They had a guy who watched his film from before that, so he really has 194 and a half sacks, even though that's unofficial, but officially, he has 176. [01:20:26] Speaker A: Interesting. [01:20:27] Speaker B: But he created the term sack. Deacon Jones, another innovator. When guys change rules, they gotta make a list somewhere. He made it illegal to slap. He would legally come off the ball and just punch in the head, which, when I saw the video, I'm like, he just pushed the shit out, this dude. Yeah. [01:20:43] Speaker A: That's a ten year penalty because no. [01:20:45] Speaker B: One else ever did it. So he. After he, like, concussed 30,000 people and got 30,000 sacks, they made hands to their head illegal. So that's the innovational change to the game. You changed the rules, so. And you're drafting the 14th round just like Tom Brady. [01:21:00] Speaker A: Change the rules. Like the tuck rules. [01:21:01] Speaker B: But he changed the rules not to benefit him. That didn't benefit Deacon Jones. Now, I can't beat you in the head. I got to do other things now. [01:21:09] Speaker A: You're right. The league. The league changed it to benefit. [01:21:11] Speaker B: You know, creating, after that, the club move, which was the same thing, but instead of hitting you on the head, I'm clubbing your shoulder, right? So you have to aim lower. So, I mean, he's an innovator with pass. And you gotta think about this. All these sacks came back in the day when cats just random, random ball. Like, they didn't just pass all the time. Like this came. [01:21:28] Speaker A: That's true. When the NFL was on the ground. [01:21:32] Speaker B: The MVP's are running back. [01:21:33] Speaker A: Right. [01:21:34] Speaker B: So he got 200 sex. Not, not your boy. The Bills lineman Bruce Smith, who had, who's a leader, even though he played for 60,000 years. Like the last two, four years. He like four sacks, three sex. Two sex. Once. Like I put a record. [01:21:47] Speaker A: Right. This guy was, stayed there just to break the record. [01:21:50] Speaker B: Yeah. So they. Deacon Jones is my number three guy. So that's my two. Right. [01:21:55] Speaker A: That's good. Those are good picks. I like them both. That's, that's a strong team. It's a strong draft. So far. My number three, I'm going with Terrell Davis. 1995 NFL draft, 6th round, 196th overall, helped win two Super Bowls. [01:22:18] Speaker B: He's in my head, y'all. [01:22:19] Speaker A: And he earned Super Bowl MVP honors, man. [01:22:21] Speaker B: Get my head. Yes. [01:22:24] Speaker A: Not disagreeing with you, Terrell Davis, just. That's it. Peyton put me a, Peyton Manning put me on to the Broncos. I was a big, big holes fan when he went. It kind of forced me to watch them, you know, the quarterback you love. Yeah, kind of watch them. And then it kind of made me start liking the Broncos. And then what? Wilson went to the Broncos. I was like, never mind. [01:22:45] Speaker B: Yeah, kind of. [01:22:46] Speaker A: Kind of ruined it for me. [01:22:48] Speaker B: Douche like, nobody likes Russell Wilson. You try too hard, Russ. [01:22:51] Speaker A: I know you're watching. [01:22:52] Speaker B: You know he's watching this. He's trying to rush you, trying to just be yourself. [01:22:55] Speaker A: That's funny. All right, number four. I'm going to go with Richard Sherman. Fifth round, 154th overall, 2011 draft. They said they didn't think he was going to be big enough. What? Didn't think he was going to be strong enough. And who did he end up being? He poor. He, he was the locker room. He was the leader of the Legion of Boom. He helped win their Super bowl with Russell Wilson. He emerged to be like the top corner. He was stay with the Seahawks for forever. Went to the 49 ers. I mean, now he's a tv personality, and he does a damn good job there. Shout out, Richard Sherman. You know, that underdog came through, did a lot. Richard Sherman. My fourth pick. [01:23:46] Speaker B: Man. Thing about Richard Sherman is he can't stand harbor, because when Harry, Richard Sherman started as a receiver, how about kicked him off and said he couldn't catch? He became a cornerback. [01:23:58] Speaker A: Well, isn't that usually how that goes? Is the, the cornerback is just a receiver who can't catch. [01:24:04] Speaker B: Yeah, but, but he ended up leading the league and interceptions, like ten one year. Eight one year. So it's funny, but he actually goes back and say he glad that made that move. Cause he probably wouldn't be as good as the receiver as a cornerback. So, yeah, I like the pick. I forgot about him. [01:24:20] Speaker A: These lists can go deep, man. There's a lot of. It's a great 1200 picks every year. [01:24:24] Speaker B: That team alone. You can grab him, his partner, the browner kid or the strong safety. The whole legion of boom outside of Earl Thomas were a bunch of freaking late gyms that they found and coached up. And like you said before, I think we had a conversation before the show started. It's all about finding guys what they do best. [01:24:44] Speaker A: Right, right. [01:24:45] Speaker B: And make your scheme based on what they do best and not just how to fit a guy into a scheme, ie, the Bears did with the boy fields. [01:24:52] Speaker A: Right, exactly. [01:24:53] Speaker B: Was never a running quarterback in college, but yet you make them to a running quarterback like this makes no sense. Anyways. [01:24:57] Speaker A: Yep. [01:24:58] Speaker B: So yeah, that's a great man. Like I really forgot about Richard Sherman. That's a great pick. And I do not look like Richard Sherman. So if anybody thinking that I do not. Please stop. Don't say that. I don't look like. [01:25:09] Speaker A: All right. Say less. [01:25:12] Speaker B: All right. So the next two of mine or. Next one. [01:25:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Finish up your draft. You got four and five. [01:25:15] Speaker B: All right, well, it's getting redundant now. I got Shannon Sharpe at four, 7th round draft pick from a small HBCU Savannah State. He was a receiver at that school. He made the switch. Cause his college coach said, and I quote, you're too slow to play tight in the league, but you'll be a dynamic receiver. But you gotta learn the block. And Shannon sharp wasn't a big guy. He's still not a big guy. Well, he's big compared to the average person. But the average tight end is like. 6465. 200. 5260. Shannon sharp was like six. 4235. 240. I'm sorry. Six two. [01:25:50] Speaker A: Right. [01:25:51] Speaker B: 235. 240. So it's not the biggest guy. He's blocking freaking defensive ends. That's 200. 6272. Hundred. 80 back then. 200. 8290. Ridge Wright was 292. So these guys were big and he's holding his own block. So that zone blocking scheme with the broncos, he was a. And when you have a tight end that can set the edge, meaning. So zone blocking scheme is meant to create alleys. That's going towards the sideline, right? [01:26:13] Speaker A: Right. [01:26:13] Speaker B: If my tight end can hook your end right now my running back has that sideline, which everybody knows you shouldn't do. He was good enough to get that tight end. I'm sorry. That defense in the hook and climb to the next level. Which that's why all the running backs were able to get all those yards. So him and number four. And I think I'm kind of biased, cuz I love what he's doing. His post career with club Shay Shay and all the interviews. Let the truth be. So all that good stuff. [01:26:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:37] Speaker B: You know, that's fresher than mine. [01:26:39] Speaker A: What's entertaining. [01:26:39] Speaker B: Yes. Personally attending. So, yeah, you say a lot of good things about him already, so I'm not gonna talk more about that. And number five, another one you stole from me. Get out my brain. Sir. Terrell Davis, man. Not the biggest Terrell Davis fan because his career was so short. I just thought that he's a, he would have been a hall of famer if he had a long career. But six years, is that a hall. [01:26:59] Speaker A: Of fame, man, running backs don't have. This is a short shelf life, especially in a running game. [01:27:05] Speaker B: Six years. And like, out those six years, one, he was hurt. [01:27:10] Speaker A: Yeah, you're right. [01:27:11] Speaker B: So, I mean, granted, 2000 yards, right? And he basically, l weigh, you're a Super bowl champion because of this man. Because you couldn't win before you had him. Right? So I get it. Like, I'm not, I am a little bit of Terrell Davis hater. I'm not gonna lie to you. [01:27:25] Speaker A: There you go. [01:27:26] Speaker B: Just something about him. [01:27:27] Speaker A: Gotta lean into it. [01:27:27] Speaker B: I gotta lean into it. I'm not gonna lie to y'all. When I was a kid, watching him score a touchdown, doing a salute, I just didn't like him. I don't know. Good guy, good looking guy. Play sports, good running back. But I'm like, I don't like this guy. I don't know why. So. And it stuck with me. So I'm biased, I'm sorry. [01:27:41] Speaker A: Hey, man. Some people, you just don't like it. Just no matter what you do, you just, people don't like you. It's all good, but can't heal them. [01:27:48] Speaker B: 2000 yards. So. Yeah. [01:27:49] Speaker A: Yeah, my last pick. Those are good picks, by the way. I know that because I picked them. [01:27:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:56] Speaker A: My last pick, I'm going to go with Jared Allen. He was a fourth 126 overall, Kansas City Chiefs 2004 draft baller, ass pass rusher. [01:28:11] Speaker B: And I don't know how he was so good because. Cause he didn't look like a football player. [01:28:14] Speaker A: No, he was just dominating in sacks. He had double digit sacks, multiple seasons, five all pro selections, Chiefs and Vikings, right? Yeah. [01:28:22] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [01:28:23] Speaker A: Just dominant on the field, but, yeah, that's my fifth pick. Basically, what we like to do to wrap it up is just a. You know, we each take turns just listing our picks, so just go ahead and run through your top five. [01:28:38] Speaker B: Okay, my top five was Joe Montana, number one, Tom Brady, number two, Deacon Jones, number three, shannon sharp, number four, and Terrell Davis, number five. [01:28:46] Speaker A: Sweet. And my number one was Tom Brady, two, shannon Sharp, three, Terrell Davis, four, Richard Sherman, and five, Jared Allen. [01:28:56] Speaker B: I like that Jerry Adam pick. That's a good pick. [01:28:59] Speaker A: All right, we're back. Covering a preview of UFC. This week is UFC St. Louis, and as you could probably guess, it's in. In St. Louis. Headlining the card is going to be derek the black Beast Louis in the heavyweight division, taking on Rodrigo Zacomeya Nasimento. Before we get into that, we're going to walk through the main card opener and then walk our way, all the way to the main event. Six fights on the main card. Let's start it off with another heavyweight fight. Waldo salsa boy. Cortez Acosta taking on Robalus despain, the big boy. This one's going to be interesting. You got the two fighters here. Cortez Acosta is eleven and one. He's five and oh by ko. And one and oh by submission in the UFC, or at least in his past five. Five. He's won four out of five. Four of those fights have gone to the decision. He's won once by ko, lost once to Marcos Rogerio de Lima by decision. Despain is 50 in his last five, but he's 10 in the UFC. He took out Josh Parisian by ko in the first round at UFC 299. What do you think about this fight? What's your first thoughts going in first? [01:30:34] Speaker B: I'm looking to got at six. 7261. Good guy. [01:30:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:30:37] Speaker B: 84 inch reach. 77.8% significant strike accuracy. [01:30:44] Speaker A: Like, yeah, it's a. It's a big guy fighting a slightly smaller big guy. [01:30:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. 64, 261. So three inches. But look at the reach, though, man. 78 inches to 84 inches. [01:30:56] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm not a mathematician, but to me, that looks like six inches. And if you ever have six inches of anything on anybody, you're a problem. [01:31:05] Speaker B: Yeah, you know, according to statistics, that's pretty significant. [01:31:09] Speaker A: Strikes landed. Like, this is saying. Like, you're. Now, keep in mind, this is only in fights in the UFC, so it does not take into account his other stuff, like regional circuit. But in his one fight, he landed 23 strikes in his knockout over Josh Parisian. Now, Waldo Cortez Acosta. He's kind of battle tested. You know, he's done. He's been in the UFC for a little while. He's had a few fights. I know a lot of times coming in, and, you know, having that. That difference in division, if you will, kind of changes things. So how do you think this fight's actually going to play out? [01:31:50] Speaker B: Man, I'm looking at these. These stats. Cause I'm not gonna lie and act like I know a lot about these two guys. I watch USC a lot. It's just the newer guys. It's harder for me to keep up with these days with my schedule. [01:32:00] Speaker A: That's fair. [01:32:01] Speaker B: But I'm looking at, man, somebody's getting knocked out. If I had to guess, I'm thinking your boy Waldo was getting knocked out. Cause despite knockouts. So statistics say he's probably gonna become six and over with six knockouts. The Waldo. I don't know why I'm saying Waldo. Cause I wanna mess his last name up is a decision guy. Decision decision. One ko, right. So he's gonna try to stretch the fight out. But if one guy's trying to knock you out and one guy's trying to stretch it out, either one or two things gonna happen. Either someone's gonna get knocked out, so it's gonna get gassed. So I think someone's gonna get knocked out. So I go with despite. [01:32:39] Speaker A: Okay, so despite is 100% as a favorite. He is the current favorite. -218. Cortez has never been the underdog in a fight in the UFC. [01:32:50] Speaker B: Really? [01:32:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:32:51] Speaker B: Wake some up, like, spark something. [01:32:54] Speaker A: Yeah, you never know. It depends. I'm going to go as well, and I'm going to lean with you. I'm going to go rob a despain for my pick as well. I think he's going to. I think he's going to win. I think he's probably going to finish Waldo Cortez. Acosta, if I actually had to. Absolute guess on that one. Let's move on to the featherweight division. Featherweight division is 145 pounds. Alex Cesar's taking on Sean Woodson. You got Cesares, who? He's an impressive fighter. He's 21 and 14 in his career. [01:33:32] Speaker B: A lot of fights. [01:33:33] Speaker A: A lot of fights. He's three and two in his last five. Three decisions, one ko, one sub. He does a lot of fight nights. This is kind of like the same tier as a fight night. It's just not in the apex. It's at a named location. So they give it UFC St. Louis Cesaros is good, man. He's hard to beat. But Woodson. Woodson's so damn tall. He's such a big guy in the 166. [01:34:01] Speaker B: Two at the 145 pounds, right? Huge. [01:34:04] Speaker A: He's a big problem. He's eleven one and one in his career. He's known as the sniper. I mean, he's four and oh, and one in his last five. He lost or he drew against Saldana at UFC 278. But he's winning by decision. He's long. He's hard to keep it on, on the ground. Charles Jordan is a notable wrestler in the UFC. He could not. Charles Jordan could not keep him on the ground. Sean Woodson, so long, Cesaros. You know, statistically speaking, he does go to the ground sometimes. He does look for submissions. This is one where I think, you know, the favorites going to win as well. I think Sean Woodson is going to win here. [01:34:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, Sean. Sean Woodson is listed at six to 145. But let's keep it honest. He's been probably walk around at what. [01:34:54] Speaker A: Probably like 165, 70. [01:34:57] Speaker B: That's huge, man. [01:34:58] Speaker A: And also taking into account that reach advantage, 78 inches to 73 and a half. Three and a half. [01:35:03] Speaker B: Another situation. We have a tall guy versus a short guy relative. Relative to each other. Not going to keep this too long, I think. Sean Winston wins by like knockout, maybe, what, 1st, 2nd round. [01:35:13] Speaker A: That's fair. The dude's got long hands. He. And he's got power behind him. Next. Keeping it relatively small, guys. Lightweight division, 155 pounds. Diego Ferreira taking on Matus. Rebecca so Ferreira, two and three in his last five. He's been finished. All three of those losses, not good. But his most recent fight was a knockout victory. You know, maybe. Is that kind of the comeback tour? You know, we don't know. We'll see. Rebecca, on the other hand, is five and oh in his last five, three and oh in the UFC, he's got one decision win, one ko win, one submission win. He's 19 and one in his career. I mean, he's lost literally the one time he's a heavy favorite at -425 a southpaw fighter, which, as uncommon as they are in other sports, they're more common in the UFC, but they're just as hard as a thing to deal. [01:36:21] Speaker B: With, especially with orthodox fighter. You're right. [01:36:25] Speaker A: Ferreira, on the other hand, against southpaws is two and four. So makes me want to go with the betting favorite, Matus Rebecca. I think he's going to keep that undefeated UFC record and move to 40 in the UFC. [01:36:41] Speaker B: So once again, another reach advantage. But we're going to go with the guy with the shorter reach, all because, I mean, look at the stats. One guy mixes up a little more, does look like his finishes are different. He got subs, he got TKO's. He got decisions, so he can do a little bit of everything. And he. And he is that southpaw. Whenever you watch a fight and you have a southpaw versus unorthodox, I mean, orthodox, that jab that comes straight down, it's killer, man. [01:37:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like. It's like a blind person. You never see it because you never see it coming. You soon, orthodox fighter throwing that rice. [01:37:13] Speaker B: Yeah, never see it coming. So it's always a problem. This guy's two and four. He's proven that he sucks against southpaw. [01:37:19] Speaker A: So I'm gonna go on, everybody to know that I can punch, but I was going over the arm of the microphone stand. [01:37:25] Speaker B: He can't punch, y'all. He's lying. [01:37:27] Speaker A: So it wasn't as bad as it should. [01:37:30] Speaker B: I wasn't gonna say anything. I'm glad you was honest in talking. Totally. So. Cause that was. Whoo. [01:37:35] Speaker A: You pick Rebecca. [01:37:36] Speaker B: I'm picking Rebecca. [01:37:37] Speaker A: All right, let's move on because I don't want to relive this moment any longer. Next up, moving to the big boys, because we're moving further into the card, and they get heavier as we go. Well, not really the whole time. They get heavy, then they get light, then they get real heavy. Alonzo Atomic, Minnowfield, he got what he wanted. He asked for. I'm sorry, Joaquin Buckley asked for this fight. Minnowfield is fighting Carlos Olberg. Okay, this is going to be a good fight. You got 15, three and 1 minute field taken on Ulberg, who's ten and one. Both guys haven't lost in a while. You know, Menafield drew to Croot, but then they fought again, and he subbed him. All bergs five and o in his last five. Been in the UFC for, you know, a little while. This is going to be a good fight. An impressive fight, this one. This is where power is going to come into play a lot. You know, the odds are plus 220 for Minutefield, -270 for Ulberg. But more importantly than that, power comes into play where, like, odds matter way less because it takes these. These boys, like, one hit to just completely. [01:38:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:38:50] Speaker A: Unfold these, the other guys, like, it's gonna be impressive. What do you think? What do you think's the game plan coming in? [01:38:58] Speaker B: Well, I think one guy's gonna mix it up and one guy's gonna just throw hands. Cause I'm looking at these records, and your boy Oberg is knocking guys out. [01:39:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:39:09] Speaker B: And the thing that kind of baffled me a little bit was his take down accuracy. Am I looking at 77% here for over misreading that information right there? Take down. [01:39:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Of the ones he shoots, he. It's in three quarters of the. [01:39:24] Speaker B: So that means that's pretty good. [01:39:26] Speaker A: Now, the. The downside there is he, on average shoots one per match. [01:39:30] Speaker B: Exactly. [01:39:30] Speaker A: So it kind of depends numbers a little bit. [01:39:33] Speaker B: So. But, I mean, it's there. [01:39:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:39:35] Speaker B: So that means he's a mixed martial artist. And this other guy looks like a guy who throws hands. [01:39:39] Speaker A: And it also looks like when he does get the takedown or. Yeah, when he shoots the takedown, he's attempting a submission as well. So, like, there's. There's finishing or finishing at attempts, at. [01:39:51] Speaker B: Least take it down to lean on and get control time. So I went with any Nancy, and. [01:39:55] Speaker A: He does have two submission victories, most recently a submission victory against Jung at USC 293, where Strickland took the belt from easy. This is also going to be a good one. I think all Berg is going to continue his rise. You know, he hasn't lost since March of 2021, his UFC debut. He's what, five and, oh, since then, I think he's going to continue that. I know Minnefield's. You know, he's a. He's a bad problem being four and, oh, and one in his last five. Yeah, but he lost that decision to William Knight. Jimmy Crute is a. Is a bad dude as well, but drawing that time, it shows that he's beatable. All Berg has been in fighting in dominant form recently. You know, he's had that submission go to the end, but most of his fights are in him pretty early, I think. Jimmy crute or Carla. Carlos Ulberg. Sorry, I just was looking at Cruz name again, Carlos Olberg for the victory here. [01:41:01] Speaker B: I was gonna agree with you, but I feel like being a little bit controversial. [01:41:07] Speaker A: That's fair. [01:41:10] Speaker B: Significant strikes. He has a pretty decent number. Which means I'm hitting you hard in places that matter, right? [01:41:17] Speaker A: Yep. [01:41:17] Speaker B: Is that like 67, 68% shots that do damage? Right. The most damage. [01:41:23] Speaker A: That hurt. [01:41:23] Speaker B: That hurt. [01:41:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:41:24] Speaker B: I'm looking at his losses. It's not to scrubs like oven St. Pru in 2020 when he was actually still decent. [01:41:31] Speaker A: You're right. [01:41:32] Speaker B: So he's facing veterans. He's beating a few veterans as well. I'm going with the upset. I'm going with the upset. I'm gonna take Minfield. [01:41:42] Speaker A: A lot of nice. [01:41:43] Speaker B: What's his nickname again? [01:41:44] Speaker A: Atomic. [01:41:46] Speaker B: God, it's a terrible nickname. Nah, that's not bad. Alonzo Atomic. [01:41:49] Speaker A: At least he's a knockout hitter, so he's like, I got that atomic power. Yeah, I guess it's not something like that. [01:41:54] Speaker B: So I'm going to upset midfield. [01:41:56] Speaker A: Now, this next one is the one that Buckley was asking for. He was trying to fight UFC St. Louis. That's the one. I thought I was saying he's taken on their sultan. Roosevelt. Another good guy. Nursultan. Roosevelt's very good. He's two fights into the UFC, but he's five and o in his last 534. Eight and two in his career. Twelve and one by ko and 21 by submission. Joaquin Buckley is a knockout artist, but he's been knocked out a couple times. 18 and six in his career. 13 and four by ko. Never been subbed. Typically, his fights don't go to the ground because he's swinging. Yeah, this is a big fight. Everybody knows the Buckley name. New mans is the nickname. [01:42:47] Speaker B: Buckley asked for him. [01:42:48] Speaker A: Buckley acts, asked to fight at UFC St. Louis. [01:42:51] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. [01:42:52] Speaker A: He fought in March, at the end of March, and he won by ko, first round. So he's like, I'm still fresh. Okay, let me ask St. Louis. They booked it real quick, and bada bing, bada boom, we're here. [01:43:04] Speaker B: That's two months ago. Good guy. Okay, I guess one round, you still fresh? [01:43:09] Speaker A: Those guys fought on the same card. This guy has a takedown accuracy in the UFC. Yeah, he's only fought twice, and he's. [01:43:16] Speaker B: Averaging, like, almost four takedowns. [01:43:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. He knocked out both those guys in the UFC, so he took it down. A lot of that was like he was beating the shit out of him, and then he, like, took him down and then ground a pound for the finish. [01:43:32] Speaker B: Okay, I get you, but. [01:43:35] Speaker A: Yeah, he did. He's dominant so far in the UFC. He looks like a monster. Talking about Roosevelt, that is. But Buckley. I mean, Buckley's a great fighter in his own right. [01:43:47] Speaker B: Southpaw. [01:43:48] Speaker A: Southpaw is a good thing. Roosevelt's kickboxing. That's one of those things where they throw those kicks from anywhere at any time for any reason there. It's a toss up on the odds. Anything can happen here. [01:44:01] Speaker B: I would think there'd be more reach than him being 510 versus six five, but the reaches the same. [01:44:05] Speaker A: I go with the Uzbek. I'm feeling their sultan. I thought he was going to win both his fights coming into the UFC. Once against Cedric Dumas and then the other against Bruno Ferreira. Joaquin Buckley has crazy knockout power, but I think Roosevelt is more well rounded, which is going to cause. Cause the fight to kind of lean towards Roosevelt's favorite. [01:44:31] Speaker B: So this guy looks bigger than 170. Both these guys look huge. [01:44:36] Speaker A: Yeah, they're both gonna be fighting at, like 200, 200 pound, which is crazy. I just can't wait. [01:44:42] Speaker B: So unhealthy. [01:44:43] Speaker A: Completely yoked, but. [01:44:47] Speaker B: Ooh, tough one I'm gonna go with. Was the sultan his name? [01:44:51] Speaker A: Nurse sultan. [01:44:52] Speaker B: Sultan. Both. Yeah, I'm gonna go with him. Not gonna act like I know about these guys. Cause I have no freaking idea who these guys are. I've heard of Buckley a little bit, and I heard rumblings of this new guy who, you know, not from here and this that third. But looking at the stats and whatnot, I mean, I'm gonna go with. Just go with the favorite right now, and hopefully that works for me. [01:45:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Hope it pans out. [01:45:17] Speaker B: Hope it pans out. [01:45:18] Speaker A: All right, let's go to the main event. [01:45:19] Speaker B: There we go. [01:45:20] Speaker A: Which is sure to not last the whole fight, in my opinion. [01:45:23] Speaker B: Somebody's getting knocked in here. [01:45:24] Speaker A: Black. The black beast. Derek Lewis. His balls were hot. Took his shorts off, all the things. This is going to be an exciting fight. I think. Like I said, it's going to be an under kind of fight. It's going to be a knockout. Derek Lewis is currently projected to be the favorite. -162 really? NASA Mento is strong. Just as strong. Yeah, but. [01:45:51] Speaker B: But is he knockout strong? [01:45:52] Speaker A: More of a. More of a ground game. [01:45:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:45:55] Speaker A: Not leaning on the ground game from NASA Mento, but he has more of a ground game. He's got six submission victories, never been subbed. Two and one by Ko wins a bunch by decision. Derek Lewis is 22 and seven by Ko, and one and two by sub. So if you get Derrick Lewis on the ground, it's hard to him for him to get back up. If you can hold him. [01:46:15] Speaker B: Big boy, right? [01:46:16] Speaker A: It's hard to get 300 pounds up. [01:46:18] Speaker B: If you ever get in shape, if you ever got in shape. Shape. I wonder how. I'm gonna wonder. He did get in shape. [01:46:22] Speaker A: A little run here a few, few fights ago. I think probably his last loss, he had a six pack. [01:46:30] Speaker B: Really? [01:46:31] Speaker A: Big boy had a six pack. It was crazy. [01:46:34] Speaker B: Popeyes commercial. [01:46:36] Speaker A: It was huge, but, yeah. Derek, this is gonna be a knockout. I do not see these boys last into the cards. I just don't see it. I think it's going to be because I'll meet in Derek Lewis's last fight. It's a big wrestling problem. I think, knowing that you're coming into another wrestler, it's gonna like, your camp's gonna be aiming for that twice in a row, so I think he's just thinking about wrestling. [01:47:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:02] Speaker A: Thinking about being able to defend it. I'm gonna go with the Derrick Lewis knockout. [01:47:10] Speaker B: NASA Mento. [01:47:10] Speaker A: That's how I said Rodrigo. NASA Mento. [01:47:13] Speaker B: He tries to bit people a lot, which is looking at his stuff, which. Excuse me. Sorry about that, man. Derek Lewis hits a freaking hard, man. [01:47:24] Speaker A: He does, like, good guy. [01:47:26] Speaker B: Like, he's always in a fight because he's got to touch you one time. If you got a guy trying to submit you versus a guy that's going to try to, like, brawl and strike with you. As long as Derrick loser doesn't. Derrick Lewis doesn't get taken down. I see him win this fight, he gets taken down. I see him look like a beach wheel on that ground. He just cannot get up, turn on his back, so. And then you have a guy who's a brazilian black jutsu, black belt on top of you who has some submissions, but he has been knocked out, too. In 2020 was the last time he was knocked out. So I'm going to pick Derek Lewis because. I'm sorry. I like. [01:48:04] Speaker A: I like Derek Lewis. [01:48:05] Speaker B: He's just, like, the guy who never goes away. [01:48:07] Speaker A: It's hard for bias not to set in when you're doing a bunch of pigs as well. I get it. [01:48:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:48:11] Speaker A: I like Derek Lewis. I like the pics. It's gonna be a good week at UFC, but, yeah, I think that pretty much wraps up everything. I'd like to say thank you for coming, Marquess. It's been fun. Check us out next week where we recap UFC St. Louis, and we move forward back to another apex card. UFC fight night. Barbosa versus Murphy. Yeah. Edson Barbosa, still fighting at 38. It's gonna be a good one. Thanks, guys. Love you all. Bye. Peace.