[00:00:08] Speaker A: Welcome back to Split decision. This week on episode 14, we're gonna be recapping Noche UFC. From there, we're gonna take a look ahead to UFC Vegas 79 Fiziev versus Gamrot. Then we're going to move on to our top five worst people, and we're going to finish things up with a little Q and A with an N. But first, head to Splitdecisionpod.com, where you'll find all our recent episodes, our merch picks and more. But for an added bonus, use code Split35 for 35% off your order. Again, Splitdecisionpod.com. All right, let's go.
[00:00:58] Speaker B: All right, let's move on to our recap of Noche UFC from this past weekend. Shevchenko Grasso was the main event. And, man, this fight kind of lived up to the billing.
Great back and forth fight. Honestly, one of the best women's title fights of all time. I think just for the back and forth.
Almost ended kind of the same way. It was a fight where shevchenko was maybe questionably winning the fight. Yeah.
Grasso comes, takes advantage of a Shevchenko mistake, grabs her back. First time, got the neck crank this time. She almost got it again.
[00:01:37] Speaker A: Yeah, just wasn't as clean this time, otherwise she would have but what a fight.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: Ended in a draw, so Grasso kept her belt. It was a controversial draw. I think the judging was a little wonky. Who was the judge?
[00:01:51] Speaker A: Right, so arguably, it came down to the fifth round, where if Grasso won the fight, won the round ten nine, it would have given the split decision win to Shevchenko Shevchenko. Correct. Mike Bell scored the fifth round ten.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: Eight, which there's no way that's a ten eight round.
[00:02:08] Speaker A: No Chevchenko was winning the fifth round for both had four minutes, through and through, maybe three and a half minutes.
[00:02:15] Speaker B: And then Grasso grasso kind of dominated the last minute, but it's definitely not.
[00:02:20] Speaker A: Worth a ten eight scoring.
[00:02:22] Speaker B: I actually had to fight 48 47 Grasso, so I'm happy she kept the belt, but I don't like the judging was definitely questionable.
[00:02:30] Speaker A: Look, I don't think anybody would argue that Grasso won the fight, that shevchenko won the fight if there's no ten eight fifth round, I don't think there's any controversy if it's ten nine, because.
[00:02:41] Speaker B: It could have gone either way.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: Right. And if it's ten nine and they still score it for Grasso, I don't think you have fans up in arms like you do now. I don't think you have people like Bisbing coming out, right, and saying, no, it wasn't a ten eight. That was ridiculous. You don't have people like Balal Mohammed coming out and saying, no, absolutely, that's not a ten eight. To dominate for the full five minutes of the round, to be a ten eight. If anything, it's unfortunate. Cenko deserves the ten eight in that round. If you're judging it based on domination.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: I wouldn't say that because I think the last minute was dominated by Grasso, but it kind of overshadowed a great title fight. The judging, that's all anybody's talking about now. I think we're kind of losing the fact that both these chicks had a lot of success against each other. It was very know, I wouldn't be opposed to them running it back a third time now. Especially after a controversial draw. I know Dana White said he didn't know about it. They're kind of thinking maybe Grasso fights Blanchfield. Maybe blanchfield puberty.
[00:03:41] Speaker A: You heard that?
[00:03:42] Speaker B: Or the French fighter. What's?
[00:03:44] Speaker A: The menon fuarro we just saw her fight a few weeks ago.
[00:03:48] Speaker B: So one of those two, just to give her a fresh face. Shevchenko I think she's going full force for that third rematch. I would like to see a third rematch.
[00:03:56] Speaker A: Yeah. The first matchup was a good fight. You had Shevchenko winning a couple rounds early on. You had Grasso coming back, know, in the fourth round, winning by neck crank.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: Both very resilient in this fight.
[00:04:08] Speaker A: Right. And then the second time, this rematch, it was very close contest again.
I'd be very hyped to see a third fight. The trilogy be announced tomorrow.
[00:04:19] Speaker B: I agree. But the only thing is the problem with that shevchenko comes out and wins, then it's one win apiece with a draw.
[00:04:25] Speaker A: Right. And then you're in the Brandon Moreno, david Figueredo.
[00:04:29] Speaker B: Figueredo. David's a figueredo. We got to do a fourth one now.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: And it's like, Right, well, we're only fighting each other for five years. Yeah, I agree. Maybe give it to Blanchfield, maybe give it to Poirot. We'll see what comes out. But definitely Grasso's not going down without a fight. I think she proved that out.
[00:04:46] Speaker B: It was honestly, controversy aside, it was an impressive performance from Grasso. She kind of shut the naysayers up to say it was kind of a fluke win the first time out because she proved at the very least that she's as good as Valentina Shevchenko.
[00:05:02] Speaker A: Right. In a co main event matchup, the welterweights Jack Della Matalina and Kevin Holland fought kept it on the feet because they're very skilled strikers. Jack della Matalina. He's a smaller fighter. So his game plan really had to just be to get close, try to do his damage.
[00:05:21] Speaker B: Especially small just compared to Kevin Holland for that for 170.
[00:05:26] Speaker A: Right. His game plan just to get close, try to break apart that reach that Holland had over him. And honestly, it worked. He moved forward predominantly, the whole fight had Holland backing away, having to kind of take his shots as he's moving away from Madeleina.
[00:05:42] Speaker B: Yeah, but Holland is long enough where he was still piecing him up. He was getting some good shots in as well, hitting each other.
But as you said, backing up the whole time. I think that JDM. Set the pace.
[00:05:54] Speaker A: Right. I think Holland backing up with even though he's doing damage. But with Madeline setting the pace for.
[00:06:01] Speaker B: The fight, it was like San Strickland's coach had optics.
[00:06:04] Speaker A: Right. I think that is what helped him win the fight by split decision. Given a close matchup, you need that very thing. You need optics on your side to win the fight. In a fight where there's no takedowns, there's nothing like that to was there.
[00:06:20] Speaker B: A knockdown in the no? Yeah.
[00:06:22] Speaker A: No, it's just a very stand up, very skilled striking fight where damage was dealt and Jack Della Matalina won by split decision. That moves him to 16 on a 16 fight win streak. In the UFC or not in the UFC.
[00:06:40] Speaker B: He's six and o in the UFC.
[00:06:41] Speaker A: Right. 16 in a row. Six and O in the UFC.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: Keeps climbing that ladder.
[00:06:46] Speaker A: I think we're going to see him on a pay per view. I've seen him on a few he was supposed to be on a pay per view a few weeks ago. His opponent had to back out, so he fought on the fight night after that. After that, I think we see JDM on a pay per view coming up. He didn't take a lot of damage here. I think he can take some time off. I think he wants to fight again in 2023. So maybe that December card. What do you think?
[00:07:06] Speaker B: Yeah, he has an exciting style. I think a lot of people like him.
[00:07:10] Speaker A: And definitely not one to sleep on, being 16 wins in a row. Exactly.
[00:07:13] Speaker B: I'm all for it. I know they have it would have been nice to have him in Abu Dhabi in a couple of weeks, but I think that's too soon.
[00:07:18] Speaker A: Right.
[00:07:19] Speaker B: I think maybe the November card in New York or like you said, the December card, wherever that pay per view ends up being, probably Vegas. I would like to see him fight again. This he although he got hit in this fight, as we said, and they went back and forth. I think he didn't take a whole bunch of damage. Right where in a couple of months he should be good to go.
[00:07:37] Speaker A: And then with Holland I don't think.
[00:07:40] Speaker B: Holland lost any stock in this loss.
[00:07:42] Speaker A: I was about to say the very thing. They pretty much, in my opinion, just swapped rankings. They were 14 and 15. I think they stay 14 and 15. Just opposite names on the board.
[00:07:50] Speaker B: Holland's still going to shit talk. He's still going to have exciting big mouth.
[00:07:53] Speaker A: Holland. You got to love him. Yeah.
[00:07:55] Speaker B: I don't think this changes, really, anything for him.
[00:07:57] Speaker A: No, I think the next opponent for JDM is just a higher ranked opponent than the next opponent for Holland.
[00:08:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I would agree with that. All right, so the next fight we're going to cover is the Wonder Kid himself, raul Rosas Jr. Terrence Mitchell. Both guys came out swinging for no regard for their own health, no defense, really, in this fight.
Big swings to start it off, and then eventually the 18 year old Rosa Jr. Caught terrence Mitchell and Terrence Mitchell trying to be disrespectful. He flew across the cage.
[00:08:29] Speaker A: Yeah, it was crazy.
I don't know if he was trying to dodge it while the punch was connecting with his face, but did not look good. Yeah, it was not a good look for a 33 year old man fighting an 18 year old.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: And he got him on the ground. Rosa Jr. We all know what he can do on the ground. And he just ground and pound. Won the fight.
Good win for him. I don't think his game plan and fighting style would work against a higher quality opponent. No offense to Mitchell, but for the night, coming off his first loss, he couldn't ask for anything more. Was a good performance from him.
[00:09:02] Speaker A: Yeah. That moves him to eight and one in his career. I mean, that's really helpful, having a.
[00:09:07] Speaker B: Two and one in the UFC now.
[00:09:09] Speaker A: A rebound win like that, though, because.
[00:09:11] Speaker B: You never know how your first loss is going to fuck you, especially if you're 18 years old.
[00:09:14] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, that's a kid. Arguably, his brain is not fully developed.
[00:09:18] Speaker B: And his brain is definitely not I.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: Was about to say, keep fighting like this and you're not going to have a fully developed brain. But look, you need a couple of wins like that to get you on the right track, give you some momentum. And all props to Raul Rosa Jr. El Nino problema for coming out. Noce. UFC Mexican Independence Day and winning it for his culture. Yeah.
[00:09:40] Speaker B: He got the crowd going in the fight. It was a nice rebound to see.
[00:09:44] Speaker A: At the end of the fight with him doing the old Ric Flair, even though he was speaking unintelligibly the entire time.
[00:09:50] Speaker B: After every sentence is whoa.
[00:09:52] Speaker A: Yeah, it was amazing. It got me.
[00:09:55] Speaker B: He knows he might not know exactly what he's doing, but he's doing the right things, right?
[00:10:00] Speaker A: Yeah. It was similar to that Kanye West song, Friends in Paris. It gets the people going.
[00:10:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:06] Speaker A: Moving on to a fight in the lightweight division, we have Daniel Zellhuber versus Christos Guillagos. We saw this one here two different ways. Originally, I thought Zellhuber was going to take this one with stride. And you thought Guillagos was going to win.
[00:10:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I thought the experience would play a factor.
[00:10:24] Speaker A: Honestly, man, first round, the experience looked.
[00:10:28] Speaker B: Like it was advantage. The younger guy, it was weird. Like, the guy with more experience, he fought like the guy with more experience.
[00:10:33] Speaker A: I think IAGOS is kind of known for unleashing those little furies and then capitalizing on those.
[00:10:38] Speaker B: And if you don't capitalize right, and I think screwed.
[00:10:42] Speaker A: One of the things that kind of shocked me from Zell huber was how quickly he was able to regain his composure. Composure after completely getting rocked in the first round?
[00:10:51] Speaker B: Yeah. He got caught, as you said.
[00:10:53] Speaker A: He kind of ran, then found the clinch. And look, in my opinion, like you just said, do what you got to do to win the fight. As long as it's legal, it's good.
[00:11:03] Speaker B: Because after he survived that, it seemed like it was clear his advantage and obviously ended with a second round finish. Was it anaconda choke?
[00:11:11] Speaker A: Yeah, anaconda choke.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: He got Giagos to panic attack because he rocked him.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: Right. He caught him with a countdown panic takedown. Panic shoot.
[00:11:21] Speaker B: Panic shoot? Yeah.
[00:11:23] Speaker A: Countered him with a right hook. Yeah. We'll get there eventually. We're on the short bus. Sometimes it's all good. Zell Huber countered with a powerful right hook that stumbled Guillagos, causing him to do, like we said, the quick shoot, the panic shoot.
[00:11:38] Speaker B: I don't want to get knocked out.
[00:11:39] Speaker A: Right. I'm scared.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: Punched again. I'm out.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: Right? So Zell Huber countered again with better wrestling defense, locking in that anaconda choke, securing him another victory at just 24. You said 24 years old.
[00:11:52] Speaker B: 24 years old. That moves into two and one in UFC. He lost his first UFC fight. He's won two in a row since then, 14 and one overall. So he's a guy to look out for.
You always like to see, as we said in Rosa Jr. Before a guy get his first loss and take it well and rebound. He's got his first loss two in a row. Now he seems like he's rolling Zell Huber.
[00:12:15] Speaker A: So, with Zell Huber in the lightweight division, we talk about this division often being one of the toughest divisions in the UFC to move forward in. Who would you like to see Daniel Zellhuber fight next?
Is he ready for anything of a contention, or is he looking a couple more fight nights before he gets to go?
[00:12:33] Speaker B: No, I think he's a couple more fight nights. This division is so stacked and he's so young. I think you don't want to throw him in there.
[00:12:40] Speaker A: Maybe, like, a short notice, maybe UFC prelim pay per view card. He might get on.
[00:12:47] Speaker B: Maybe somebody like Patty Pimlet. That'd be a good one for him. But I don't think Patty would fight him, not right now.
[00:12:54] Speaker A: There'd have to be a change of trajectory for him.
[00:12:57] Speaker B: Kurt Hollyball, he could that wouldn't be a bad matchup for each other.
[00:13:01] Speaker A: Another experience versus newcomer. But I think Kurt Hollyball, in that case, kind of takes this fight.
[00:13:06] Speaker B: Think so, too. Shout out either way. I think he's not at the rank level yet. Just because especially how deep this division is, there's no reason to rush him when he's 24. You don't want to yeah.
[00:13:15] Speaker A: Give him time to grow. Yeah.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: Let him build.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: I like that.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: All right, so, the fight that opened up the main card of UFC noce. Fernando padilla. The mexican taking on kyle nelson. The canadian? This was a guy in Padilla making his second UFC fight, taking on a guy in his 8th UFC fight in Nelson. And although Nelson hasn't had the most success in the UFC, the experience showed it played a factor in this fight.
Padilla rocked him early.
We were both kind of frustrated. He didn't go harder for the finish when it happened.
[00:13:47] Speaker A: It's kind of annoying to me when not even when you do it every once in a while to me. Padilla is a maintenance fighter, but it's.
[00:13:56] Speaker B: Only his second UFC fight.
[00:13:58] Speaker A: Right.
[00:13:58] Speaker B: And he got a first round TKO in his first fight.
[00:14:00] Speaker A: But just looking at him fight, he doesn't want to rush for. If he has a game plan, he won't change it, which I guess that's.
[00:14:08] Speaker B: A good but, I mean, it's worked for him so far. This was just a tough fight, and he didn't go for the finish. And once Nelson kind of recovered after that, it was over. He got stronger as the fight went on.
[00:14:20] Speaker A: Right.
[00:14:21] Speaker B: Padilla, it is his fifth loss overall, his first UFC loss. One in one, but still never gotten finished. All five losses are decision losses. So that does seem to be his Achilles heel. Sometimes he probably doesn't go for the finish hard enough, and when he doesn't do that, he typically loses.
[00:14:39] Speaker A: Right. I guess that's my argument. Not to say, like, he doesn't ever finish, because he did finish his last fight.
[00:14:45] Speaker B: Five Kos eight subs in his first UFC fight.
[00:14:49] Speaker A: It's more what you just kind of alluded to. When he doesn't finish, he typically loses because he has the opportunity or just doesn't take it.
[00:14:59] Speaker B: I think we're judging him totally on one fight as well.
[00:15:02] Speaker A: Yeah, Kyle Nelson did fight a good fight here. He adjusted his game plan, which props to him for at least, or props to his coach for telling him and him listening. He adjusted his game plan, moving to land more powerful shots while know, focused on his original game plan, just using leg kicks and power punches.
[00:15:21] Speaker B: Two straight wins now for Nelson, too.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: I like it.
[00:15:24] Speaker B: After struggling to start his UFC career, two straight wins, moves to three, four, and one overall. So only 32.
Yeah.
Good win for him. Solid performance from him. Padilla, I think he'll be back. Just a minor setback.
[00:15:41] Speaker A: All right. And the last fight for no che UFC we're going to cover is going to be Roman Kopolov versus Josh Frimmed. Honestly, the main reason we covered this fight, I guess main two reasons are going to be that we really like Roman Kopolov and we really like Josh Frimmed. Just two fighters that we saw in a card we couldn't not cover. And Kopilov dominated this fight. The first round, Frimmed really tried to keep him at bay, used the leg kicks, did his best, but FRIM seems.
[00:16:11] Speaker B: To be just got better as the fight went on.
[00:16:13] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Not Frimmed. I'm sorry. Kopolov seems to be a force in the 185 pound division.
[00:16:19] Speaker B: An impressive striker. He clean. Striker, precision striker.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: Yeah. He ended up taking Frimmed out in the second round with a body shot. I never want to take a liver shot.
[00:16:29] Speaker B: Those body shot Kos are brutal.
[00:16:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Just watching them happen, knowing that you not visibly give up, but are visibly altered by one punch, not to the face, that looks more painful than it's worth. Kind of a piss and blood thing, and I don't want to go through.
[00:16:45] Speaker B: So copilov eleven and twelve and two overall now four and two in the UFC. He lost his first two UFC fights and now has won four in a row. All four knockouts, like you said.
[00:16:57] Speaker A: And like I said, like we both said, I don't think we're going to be betting against Kapolov anytime soon.
[00:17:03] Speaker B: He's a guy to watch out for. He's dangerous. He came back from two straight losses and has now gone on this run, this impressive run. Watch out for him.
[00:17:12] Speaker A: Right. He had a head kick his last time out.
[00:17:14] Speaker B: That body shot knockouts are just and.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: A body shot knockout this time. Crazy knockouts coming from Kappa love.
[00:17:21] Speaker B: He had the kick and then about 5 seconds later, then punched him right in the liver and then just folded. Done.
[00:17:26] Speaker A: Right? So shout out to Kapalov moving forward. I'm excited to see him fight.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: Scratching.
[00:17:39] Speaker A: Scratching.
[00:17:43] Speaker B: All right, so let's move on to our top five this week. We're going to switch things up a little bit. One, because we're in Las Vegas again, it's at the apex.
We've been in Vegas so much, we're not going to do a themed top five instead this week. And pretty much for future for these Vegas weeks, or if there's no UFC card, we're just going to do kind of a random, out of the blue top five. So this week's top five.
Top five worst people.
[00:18:13] Speaker A: Top five worst people.
[00:18:15] Speaker B: Very open. And as I said, there is also another change we're doing. So instead of just each of us listing our top five, starting number five up, where we have some of the same things, we're going to kind of do a draft right here.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: And it's going to be what we were talking about is like competition basis.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: Competition basis. We're going to do a snake draft. So we're going to alternate who goes first. This week. I'm going to be first, so you get second and third.
[00:18:37] Speaker A: I didn't think about the double picks.
[00:18:39] Speaker B: Yeah, you get the double picks, and it's pretty much after the first pick, it's double picks the whole way through into the last one.
[00:18:45] Speaker A: Right.
[00:18:45] Speaker B: Which is nice, but it'll add a new wrinkle to this, obviously, this time, since we're drafting, and it's about value, we're going to start at number one and start at number five. So you're picking the worst person you could possibly pick for your first pick and then going from there.
[00:19:00] Speaker A: So in a way, you're picking your best worst person first.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: Your favorite worst person, which sounds very bad.
[00:19:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm about to say yeah. So you're going first, right?
[00:19:13] Speaker B: I'm going first.
[00:19:14] Speaker A: Thank God. I don't want to say it.
[00:19:15] Speaker B: I take back the favorite, the best worst person, but best in the worst possible way.
[00:19:22] Speaker A: The top worst person for you is.
[00:19:27] Speaker B: I mean, I think there's a one one that's very obvious right here, but.
[00:19:31] Speaker A: You got to say it.
[00:19:31] Speaker B: I'm going to h, man. I'm going hitler. Adolf Hitler. Worst person ever. At this point, if you're somewhat of a bad person since Hitler, you're just referred to as Hitler. You don't have to be that bad now. It is universal. It's the worst insult you can throw at somebody. Nazi, which was his party. One of the worst things you can call somebody hate him. Horrible guy. He's my one one worst person of all time.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: I cannot argue with that because yeah, it's not something to argue with.
[00:20:09] Speaker B: You don't think he's a bad guy, alex right.
[00:20:11] Speaker A: It's a great pick. He's a one one. You win the first pick.
What I'm thinking for my first pick is kind of a second to your one one. It's going to be Heinrich himmler.
[00:20:24] Speaker B: Yeah, he was on a lot of lists, too, because he was right.
[00:20:27] Speaker A: He's the one who enacted Hitler, had.
[00:20:30] Speaker B: The general idea of Holocaust, and he.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: Figured out the how to and the when we're going to do it. He was a seriously heinous.
[00:20:37] Speaker B: He was the practical one, and they were a deadly combination. So I think that's a good one, too, and it's good for our podcast that we can just flat out say the Nazis are some of the worst people of all time.
[00:20:48] Speaker A: Right.
[00:20:48] Speaker B: I was thinking that on record split decision does not condone Nazism or the USSR or them.
So your number two heimlich himmler. Let's get back on track here before we actually do get ourselves in trouble.
[00:21:05] Speaker A: Right? That's actually a fair assessment.
[00:21:09] Speaker B: What's your number two?
[00:21:10] Speaker A: My number two?
I think I've got to go with another know seriously bad dude, a know used people, serial killer. I'm going Jeffrey Dahmer.
[00:21:26] Speaker B: Oh, he was on my like to.
[00:21:29] Speaker A: I like to steal things in this new draft style because, like I said, I'm trying to win, and I think this murderer is a solid kind of a first baseman, if you will. Yeah.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: Especially with the show that just came out, you kind of got, like, exactly how evil he was, right. How horrible of a person he was. He already looks like a creep, too.
[00:21:50] Speaker A: And it's also been very divisive on social media to the point where fans of the show were like, oh, I love watching this show, and people who don't like the show are sitting there and they're like, fans of this show. Right. The fans of the show are psychopaths. They might be murderers themselves. So I like Jeffrey Dahmer as my number two, kind of coupling it together. What's your second and third? How are you doing this?
[00:22:16] Speaker B: Yes, I'll do two and then I'll give you my third one. My number two. So this is actually it's top five worst people. So we don't have to pick one person.
This is actually a family of, uh oh.
They are popular as of right now. There is a recent Netflix show talking about how bad they are about the oxycotin.
[00:22:37] Speaker A: Is it the duggars?
[00:22:39] Speaker B: That's a good pick. But it's a Sackler family. So they're the family responsible for OxyContin. They're, like, the prime example of the worst possible I'm a capitalist, don't get me wrong. But the worst possible end of capitalism, where they were just saying, fuck people.
[00:22:57] Speaker A: We hope they get addicted to our.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: Drugs and it kills them with OxyContin. They literally have emails talking about that secular family. There's a Peter Berg show out right now on Netflix. I forget what it's called, but it's about how fucked up they were. They're the ones that started having hot pharmaceutical sales women to push these drugs on people, to push these drugs on the doctors.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: That's wicked. Yeah.
[00:23:22] Speaker B: So they thought of that. They were down to where you got to be, like, one or two years out of college, where a low cut thing had been in a sorority. Like, they had all these things, and they pushed OxyContin, kind of, and they did it legally. They were, like, the worst drug dealers you could possibly and they got billions off of it.
[00:23:40] Speaker A: They got that song my Pharmacist is my dealer.
[00:23:44] Speaker B: And what a song. That is my number three. So that's my number two. The Sackler family, they're fucked up.
[00:23:51] Speaker A: How do you spell sackler?
[00:23:53] Speaker B: Sack lur. Lur.
[00:23:55] Speaker A: Okay, I'm going to write that down.
What's your number? Three.
[00:24:00] Speaker B: So my number three I'm going for the wind. Remember that. So this is a guy that's relevant right now of being a fucked up person.
[00:24:07] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:24:08] Speaker B: I'm going. Danny Masterson.
Yeah, this dude just got convicted of rape. I think he got, like, life in prison for rape. All the shit that's coming out, he looks like a fucked up dude. Raping chicks.
[00:24:24] Speaker A: I also saw that Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher came to his defense and, like, nah.
[00:24:29] Speaker B: Came to his defense.
[00:24:29] Speaker A: He's a good dude.
[00:24:31] Speaker B: No, they did it in court. And when it came out that they did it in court, they did a bullshit apology. And it's like, y'all are fucked up, too, right? And apparently it's a Scientology thing.
Something to do. Uh do you ever watch King of Queens?
[00:24:46] Speaker A: Not much.
[00:24:46] Speaker B: The wife from that is, like, the most anti because she got out of Scientology church. Leah something. She came out and said that it had something to do was implying it had something to do with the Scientology church. Super fucked up.
[00:24:58] Speaker A: We're probably people.
[00:24:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Sorry, Tom Cruise, but yeah. Danny Masterson. He's in the news right now. He's a fucked up dude.
That's my number three pick.
[00:25:11] Speaker A: Okay, so my number leaning. I'm getting away from specific individuals here.
Not because there aren't a plethora of good people. I just don't want to shed any more light on specific people to kind of give them more clout than they deserve.
[00:25:31] Speaker B: You mean your boy Epstein?
[00:25:33] Speaker A: Right. So I talked to my eight year old about this. I said, Jackson, what is your top five worst know if you had to think of a worst person?
[00:25:43] Speaker B: He said bullies.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: No, he said criminals. So my number three is going to be criminals because it's an, you know, it's the murderers.
[00:25:54] Speaker B: The devil's advocate, me says, but criminals are only pushed that because of their socioeconomic.
[00:26:00] Speaker A: Correct, but he's not talking about their socioeconomic level. He's talking about murderers. To your point, Epstein type people, the child molesters. He's talking about the bad of the bad, the people that belong in prison, the Danny Mastersons, the criminals.
[00:26:16] Speaker B: So that was your number three.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: My number three is going to be the criminals.
[00:26:19] Speaker B: What do you have for number four?
[00:26:21] Speaker A: And my number four? Politicians.
[00:26:24] Speaker B: Oh, that's a good one.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: Politicians are my number four suck. They are consistently liars, consistently the worst people.
They cheat to get ahead, and they're.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: Ahead because they cheat and they're ahead.
[00:26:39] Speaker A: Because they're know you don't find a politician in the Senate or Congress or.
[00:26:44] Speaker B: If you made it that far, you're not clean.
[00:26:46] Speaker A: Right. And you never see one that for some reason isn't worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
[00:26:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:52] Speaker A: Screams insider trading to me.
[00:26:54] Speaker B: They're better than Warren Buffett on Trading.
[00:26:57] Speaker A: Right. So I don't understand how they can be that in tune and also not do their job. But politicians is going to be in my number four. I think that's a pretty underrated number four pick because they're openly just corrupt.
[00:27:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's a good pick. My number four, this one. So top five worst people. I'm adding a noun into the Is. I'm adding quarterback into that. So worst quarterback, I'm putting Justin Fields. My only thing I have is he sucks. He came out, there was all this hype about him. He's making steps. Turns out the dude sucks. The bears suck. He's a bust. It's unfortunate for the Bears, but there was a lot of hype behind him and he's the worst. So my number four kind of I'm sorry to put Justin Fields on a list with Hitler, but Justin Fields number.
[00:27:52] Speaker A: Four, I just want to point out that Justin Fields is only three spots away from Hitler.
[00:27:58] Speaker B: Yeah, but these are exponentially worse.
[00:28:01] Speaker A: Whatever you say, coach.
What's your fifth pick?
[00:28:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm kind of regretting that number four pick now it's recorded.
[00:28:08] Speaker A: You can't take anything.
[00:28:09] Speaker B: Too late now. So sorry, Justin Fields, I didn't mean you're Hitler. I'm just going to put that on the record.
[00:28:15] Speaker A: Okay, so we at split decision. Do not condone Nazis or Justin Fields being Hitler.
[00:28:22] Speaker B: Exactly. Okay, so my number five, I had one, I don't know if it'll play well on the graphic and get votes. It goes with our pick. It goes with kind of what we've been talking about.
I'm going to go the safe pick. I'm going to go Aaron Hernandez, the football player. The dude was fucked up all the way from Florida, actually, all the way from, like, high school to the NFL. He was killing people, shooting people, beating people up. He was on the DL. It's not a bad thing, but yeah, no, Aaron Hernandez, he's a shitty person.
Most men in America, he ended up.
[00:29:00] Speaker A: Being a killer, too. I mean, that's he was good. Yeah.
[00:29:02] Speaker B: Most men in America would literally kill her. To be a star in the NFL, he had a chance to do that and said he chose literally killing people. Aaron Hernandez sucks.
[00:29:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
That's a pretty great list of top five worst people. I'm going to finish mine off with another kind of generic worst person. But to me, it's kind of the general lowest of the low. It's not doing anything to hurt anyone. You're not a murderer or anything, but.
[00:29:34] Speaker B: If you're a liar yeah, I mean, liars, definitely, man.
[00:29:39] Speaker A: That is up there. I can't trust a thing you say. If you lie to me, I can't trust anything. You're being deceitful. That is hard, man.
[00:29:46] Speaker B: The worst is people getting lied to about important things sucks. But the people that lie about the small things, too, right.
[00:29:54] Speaker A: Like you're lying to do it, those.
[00:29:56] Speaker B: Are the worst kind of people.
[00:29:58] Speaker A: Absolutely. So I think liar mine's kind of general at the end of the list there. But liar, to me, if you lie about that, you're one step away from doing the next worst thing. And then one step it's a slippery slope, if you will. Yeah.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: If you're willing to lie about a.
[00:30:17] Speaker A: Lot, like, be labeled a liar right.
[00:30:20] Speaker B: There'S, what else won't you do?
[00:30:21] Speaker A: There's no end. So that's the top five comment below. Tell us what you think. Who.
[00:30:28] Speaker B: Check out our polls on social media.
[00:30:30] Speaker A: Right? There's going to be polls on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, wherever we can put them. That is free for you to see. Let us know who won. I believe I did. So let's go for that.
[00:30:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Way to put on record. You think you won a draft.
Way to step out.
[00:30:47] Speaker A: Like I will be confident.
[00:30:50] Speaker B: Way to make a statement. Of course you think you won.
[00:30:53] Speaker A: Yeah, well, that's a statement. All right.
[00:30:55] Speaker B: Check us out next week when I beat Alex again.
[00:30:58] Speaker A: Scratching.
[00:31:01] Speaker B: Wait a minute.
All right, so let's move ahead to the fight preview of the week. This week, we take a look ahead to UFC Vegas 79. It's another card in Vegas, another fight night.
The first fight we're going to take a look at. I think what we're going to do is the entire main event plus the featured prelim of the night.
[00:31:25] Speaker A: Right?
The main card prelim. That's a dumb one. You said it better. Featured prelim, like he said, so the.
[00:31:33] Speaker B: First fight, we're going to take a look at Dan. That determined. Arqueta. Is that Argetta? Argetta. I'm sorry. I've read the G as a Q.
[00:31:41] Speaker A: He's illiterate sometimes. Me apologies.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: Versus Miles Chapo Johns.
[00:31:47] Speaker A: Chapo.
[00:31:47] Speaker B: Chapo chapo. Yeah, he's American.
[00:31:51] Speaker A: This is a fight.
[00:31:54] Speaker B: The determined one. One and one in the UFC. His last fight, he was winning the fight, getting a choke. A premature stoppage by Keith Peterson just kind of fucked up. All of you don't want to say stole a win because he didn't get the win yet, but he was in prime position to get the win.
Argetta.
[00:32:13] Speaker A: Yeah. In the moment, that stoppage didn't seem right. And then upon further review, they flipped it to a no contest because it was kind of obvious keith Peterson got that one wrong.
But I like that Argetta gets to just move forward. He's not having to rematch. This guy that he was in my opinion, he was beating know? And it's not that they won't fight again in the future, they're just kind of doing different things at the moment.
He's a good striker. He moves things to the ground. He's got four submission career victories with two Ko victories and three decision victories. So kind of a mixed bag with how he gets it done, but I think he prefers to get it done on the ground. Yeah.
[00:32:57] Speaker B: And then you have Miles Johns, who a little bit more experienced in UFC. Four and two. One three out of four. He's a guy. He gets finishes. He also gets finished. Four out of his six UFC fights have ended in either submission or knockout. He's two and two in those fights. So he's exciting. I think he goes out there and gets it done. I think Johns, that's my pick for the fight. How do you think this fight goes?
[00:33:21] Speaker A: Honestly, on this one, I think Argetta is going to know what he's determined to do. Miles Johns doesn't ever go for a takedown.
He typically likes to go to the scorecards. Seven decision victories for him. I think Argetta is going to get this fight done with a finish.
[00:33:38] Speaker B: So we're different on the first fight of the night.
[00:33:41] Speaker A: Yes, I think we are. Kicking off the main card of UFC Vegas 79, we have Ricardo Ramos in the featherweight division fight Brazilian. I wish I could say his nickname.
[00:33:52] Speaker B: I know I wanted to say it, too, but I have not.
[00:33:54] Speaker A: Caracina. Carachina. It translates to clunker.
[00:33:59] Speaker B: Okay. So I got that good name for a fighter.
[00:34:02] Speaker A: Charles air Jordan. That's a sick nickname.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: That is a sick nickname. The Canadian, right? Those guys in their twenty s twenty eight year old versus 27 year old.
[00:34:10] Speaker A: Right. These two coming in with 30 combined wins, ten combined losses. Ramos coming in 16 and four. Four Kos, seven submissions, five decisions.
[00:34:18] Speaker B: Seven and three in the UFC. So he's fought ten fights in the UFC, which is pretty good for a 28 year old.
[00:34:23] Speaker A: Right. Only losing two times by Ko, once by submission, once by decision.
[00:34:27] Speaker B: Hasn't fought in over a year either. June of 2022. So he's had a long layoff. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. It could be both.
[00:34:34] Speaker A: Yeah, you could see somebody having to knock the rust off or kind of come not primed, ready to go, completely.
[00:34:39] Speaker B: Healed if he was dealing with an injury or something.
[00:34:42] Speaker A: Right.
[00:34:42] Speaker B: So that'll be interesting to watch facing.
[00:34:44] Speaker A: Charles Jordan, who comes in 14 and six in his career. Eight knockouts, four submissions, two decisions with a draw, confirming that he can win, really any type of fight. He can knock you out, he can submit you, but he can also beat you on the scorecards, I guess, depending on the judge. Mike Bell, if you're out there.
[00:35:03] Speaker B: But he's five five and one in the UFC. So he's actually fought one more fight than Ramos, but he has two less losses, less than a 50% winning percentage in the UFC. So he's been very up and down. Won only one of his last three fights.
He did win in his last fight, if you remember, it was that really boring fight against Crone Gracie. And it wasn't his fault.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: No, it was crone Gracie was laying on the ground the entire Crone Gracie.
[00:35:29] Speaker B: But that was his last fight.
So it'll be interesting to see. I think it's be a very close fight, but I have Ramos winning, and I actually like the ODS on this. So I have Ramos winning, and that's going to be my first bet of the Ramos moneyline, plus 120.
[00:35:43] Speaker A: Nice. So I'm going against you here. Not because you have a bet. I'm going against you with Charles Jordan as a pick, I think.
Not with the dust up with Crow and Gracie or anything, but I think that was an easy enough fight for him to kind of just resettle his mind, come out back there with a great camp and win this fight wholeheartedly. I think you're right. I think it's going to be a close fight. But I see Charles Jordan getting the dub here.
[00:36:10] Speaker B: So we're off on the first two fights of the night. That's interesting.
[00:36:13] Speaker A: I know, but we never know what's going.
[00:36:16] Speaker B: All right, the third fight. We're going to cover Brian Pooh Bear battle taking on a Louisiana guy. AJ The Ghost Fletcher. Brian Battle comes in nine and two in this four and one in the UFC. Won his last fight with a 14 2nd Ko. He actually has two under a minute Kos in the UFC. So that's impressive. Taking on Fletcher.
[00:36:37] Speaker A: He used to sport long hair for people who don't remember Brian Battle. He was long hair. He always fought with a caveman crazy style. That's still Brian Battle. He's just now blonde with, like, a crew cut.
[00:36:49] Speaker B: He's getting better, too.
[00:36:50] Speaker A: He is. He is getting better.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: Fun guy to watch. And he's taking on another fun guy to watch.
[00:36:54] Speaker A: AJ.
[00:36:54] Speaker B: Fletcher a guy that's ten and two. As we said, he's never been finished. He's one and two in the UFC. So he lost his 1st ₩2, his last one. So he's trying to kind of get a grip in the UFC, prove he belongs there.
If I can steal a term from the great Pat McAfee, AJ. Fletcher's a dog. Yeah, he'll go in there and scrap with you.
I think these are two guys are going to go in and scrap with each other. This is going to be a very good fight, very competitive fight. I got to go with the Louisiana guy in this fight. I think AJ. Fletcher gets it done.
[00:37:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Both fighters sporting similar records. We got Brian Battle, nine and two, AJ. Fletcher, ten and two. Both fighters losing.
Will Battle losing once by decision, once by submission, and Fletcher losing twice by decision. I think it's going to be a very competitive match. I agree with you. I think AJ. Fletcher is going to win like we think hometown hero.
I think the Ghost is going to just show Battle what's up, kind of finish it and move himself up in the rankings.
[00:37:59] Speaker B: So our first agree on right agreement.
[00:38:03] Speaker A: The main card woman's fight in a straw weight bout, 115 pounds, is Marina Rodriguez versus Michelle Waterson Gomez, the karate hottie. We see both of these fighters here after an impressive career. So far from both. We have Rodriguez at 16 and three, putting up a mixed bag of wins.
[00:38:22] Speaker B: 16 and three, and with two draws. But also she's lost her last two. So she was 16 wins, one loss, two. Very impressive for that.
[00:38:30] Speaker A: Very impressive. Six Ko wins, one submission victory with nine decisions. You said sporting two draws. She's only lost once by Ko and twice by decision.
[00:38:40] Speaker B: Six wins, three losses, two draws in.
[00:38:43] Speaker A: The UFC, she's fighting the karate hottie. Michelle Walterson. Gomez got married recently. Congratulations to her.
[00:38:51] Speaker B: She's been married. I think she just recently changed her name.
[00:38:53] Speaker A: Hey, good for her. Either way.
[00:38:55] Speaker B: Good for her husband.
[00:38:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:56] Speaker B: I don't care, Mr. Gomez.
[00:38:58] Speaker A: It's all on them. So she's coming in with a great career. Might be towards the end great. I would say 18 and eleven overall in her professional career.
[00:39:08] Speaker B: She's lost three in a row, though, and five out of her last six.
[00:39:11] Speaker A: She's been worried about that. She looks cool when she's doing it. Three Kos, nine submission victories, six decision victories. Only losing once by Ko, four times by submission, and six times on the cards.
[00:39:26] Speaker B: Her last win was September of 2020.
[00:39:28] Speaker A: Sounds like a hater over here.
[00:39:30] Speaker B: I'm just the realist Michelle. I love you.
[00:39:32] Speaker A: I feel you. But look, Rodriguez won last time out by unanimous decision against Gomez. Not her last time fighting against Waterson Gomez, she won. Rodriguez has gone two and $0.02. Both fighters really need to get a win here. I think we see a different fight with water.
[00:39:49] Speaker B: Going to be different?
[00:39:50] Speaker A: Well, I think different not in the outcome, but in the approach. I think Waterson is going to be a bit more aggressive here. I think she might actually get caught, is the problem. I think aggressive is going to be the undertone of Waterson's game plan coming in, and I think she's going to have to do that if she stands hope of winning. But I ultimately think that's going to be her demise. So I pick Marina Rodriguez to win the fight. What do you think?
[00:40:15] Speaker B: I'm picking Rodriguez as well. I think it's going to be a more dominant performance from Rodriguez when they fought in May of 21. Rodriguez needs this. She needs to end her two fight losing streak again. She had only lost one time before the last two fights, so she's trying to get back. Waterson. She's just been on the slide lately. No offense to her. Five out of six, that's a struggle.
Rodriguez with the win. All right, so we arrive at the co main event of the night.
Bryce thug Nasty Mitchell taking on Dan fifty K E gay this is a very interesting fight. Two guys that have a lot of one guy had a lot of promise coming off his first loss. That's Bryce Mitchell, 15 and one overall, six and one in the UFC. His last fight, though, December of last year, ilya Toporia dominated him and kind of embarrassed him for his first career loss. It's going to be interesting to see how he responds from that.
[00:41:14] Speaker A: Yeah, beat the guy on the ground.
[00:41:16] Speaker B: Beat him on the he's a ground guy, and he got beat on the ground. And it's like, how's your confidence? How's your mindset? How's your ego after that? Take it on Dan e Gay, who's a guy who we know is very resilient. He's won two in a row after a three fight losing streak, nine and five overall in the UFC. So he's a guy. It looked like his UFC career might have been over. Last two fights, he's coming and performed 17 and six overall. Never been finished. He's a guy that comes to fight. No matter who he's fighting, whether he wins or loses, he's going to give you a tough time. I think this is a great fight, a great co main event of the evening.
How do you see this fight going? Because it could go either way.
[00:41:53] Speaker A: So I think Mitchell's career loss or first career loss to taporia last time out, who's a dog by triangle was just an eye opener for him. I don't think it's a stain on his career. I mean, you go 15 and because.
[00:42:09] Speaker B: You'Re that dude, you are that dude, right. Confidence is a lot of this.
[00:42:13] Speaker A: I mean, you win nine submissions, this is your first loss in a long career with a young guy like Mitchell.
He can stand to take a few more losses. Look, I think he has contender potential, but I think if he uses his ability to finish Dan Egay, here the way to do that for him. His game plan is going to be to fight patient, not to fight angry. I think he's going to do that and I think he's going to get the finish here. I think he beats Dan Ege this weekend.
[00:42:50] Speaker B: I honestly agree with you. I think Mitchell gives Dan Ege his first loss by a finish and I think he gets submitted. I think Bryce Mitchell, he's going to rebound well. He's going to build off of this loss. He's going to improve off of this loss. And I think his ground game is.
[00:43:05] Speaker A: About to be sick, honestly. E Gay's best chance for victory here is going to be to keep the fight on the feet as much as possible.
[00:43:14] Speaker B: Agreed.
[00:43:15] Speaker A: Strike as often as he can, use his lungs and take the fight deep into the fight, maybe to the cards if he can do that.
[00:43:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's his best game plan. I think Bryce Mitchell finishes him with some kind of choke to kick off.
[00:43:30] Speaker A: The main event for UFC Vegas 79, we have Raphael Fiziev versus Matus Gamrot in the lightweight division. As like we always said, probably the toughest division in the UFC.
[00:43:44] Speaker B: What are their rankings in this? Seven and eight.
[00:43:45] Speaker A: In lightweight, I think Fizzyev is six and Matus is eight. It's something like that. They're both top ten, like lightweight killers.
[00:43:55] Speaker B: So we all know what that means, right?
[00:43:57] Speaker A: They both, though, dropped their top ten opponent. Most recently, Physiov dropped a loss to Justin Gaethje, who is now the BMF.
[00:44:06] Speaker B: Justin Gaethje. He lost Justin Gaethje.
[00:44:08] Speaker A: Well, yeah. Lost to Justin Gaethje. Sorry.
[00:44:11] Speaker B: Yeah, Fizzyev that lost to Gaethje ended a six fight winning streak.
[00:44:14] Speaker A: But it's Justin Gaiche. Justin Gaethje.
[00:44:17] Speaker B: And you went to the score, right.
[00:44:19] Speaker A: You didn't get knocked and he won around. Yeah. You did good. And then Gamrot lost to what's his name? Gamrot lost to Benil Darouche recently.
[00:44:29] Speaker B: Benil Darouche. But his last fight was a short notice win over Jalen Turner, which was a nice win, right.
[00:44:35] Speaker A: Both guys in lightweight division coming out strong.
[00:44:38] Speaker B: Honestly, this is going to be gamerot's never been finished either, which was an interesting fact.
[00:44:43] Speaker A: You're right. This is going to be a very powerful fight. I think here we're going to see a very kind of drastic style change or drastic difference in styles that's going to dictate the fight. I think we see the first round, fizzyev, Gamrod, both trying to find their distance. Second and third round are going to be probably one know, fourth round is where we're gonna see the real action. I think we're going to see Fizziev knocking Gamrot out in the fourth round. I take Fizzyev to win the fight, move on in the lightweight division. Kind of line himself up for possibly a Dustin Poirier in the you know, that caliber. If he's going to go on and fight the champ, the BMF title holder, I got Fizzyev.
[00:45:28] Speaker B: I think it goes to decision, though. I think it's going to be a chess match between the two guys. But I also have Fizzyev winning the fight. Dustin Poirier is not a bad fight for him. I don't think Dustin he wants big names. I don't think he would fight him. Another guy to look out for.
Maybe he fights. Yeah, that would be a good fight, right. Michael Chandler. If he doesn't fight Conor McGregor, that would be a good fight for him. The good thing about lightweight is you're going to have options.
[00:45:52] Speaker A: If you're in the top ten, you have a slew of options to choose from and it'll be all contest. Anyone could headline a pay per view card, in my opinion.
Scratch it.
Scratch it.
All right, so let's kick off and not finish up but kind of go through the bets and picks from last week.
I had an okay week. Christian had a less than what I did. Okay week.
[00:46:29] Speaker B: Horrible MMA football kind of saved me. Saved face a little bit.
[00:46:33] Speaker A: Chat GPT doing its chat GPT thing with getting only a couple wrong starting to alarm me. I don't care if it's not alarming you. It's picking better than you right now.
[00:46:43] Speaker B: It's kind of picking better than you, too.
[00:46:44] Speaker A: I know. That's what I'm saying. We need to maybe look at it.
But anyway, last week's bets, I went three one and one. We had a Valentino Chevchenkov Alexa grasso draw. So that gave me my second draw of the season or push of the season, which is crazy. Well, whatever. You two and three. You said you went Owen two on MMA or three.
[00:47:11] Speaker B: I lost Holland moneyline. Holland under and moneyline. So o and three.
But finally got football bets this week. I went Owen four in the first two weeks of football. This week got Florida plus seven. Right.
[00:47:25] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:47:25] Speaker B: They actually won outright, which was a nice win. And then I got the Steelers on Monday Night Football. They were plus two underdogs.
[00:47:34] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:47:34] Speaker B: They actually outright won that game.
[00:47:37] Speaker A: That was a good game. At the end, too.
[00:47:38] Speaker B: Was a good game. Thank God for their defense. Two and three overall.
On a bad week. I'll take the two and three.
[00:47:45] Speaker A: I had Josh FRIM moneyline. I thought he had a chance to upset Roman Kopilov there. I was absolutely wrong. I had Zell Huber versus Christos Guillagos under and that fight ended with an anaconda choke.
Valentina Shevchenko moneyline. That was a draw. Split draw. Then I had Penn State covering 14 and a half.
[00:48:08] Speaker B: They did.
[00:48:10] Speaker A: And the packers covering as well. Although I placed the bet late and the line changed. Caused me to still get the win. But I'll take it.
[00:48:18] Speaker B: There's air quotes on that win in the future. I'll see Barry Bonds over here. You wouldn't get voted into the hall of Fame because your record's a sham. Just say it.
[00:48:27] Speaker A: Maybe something like that. But I'll take the win. I'm going to just continue to go ahead and make my bets placed on Friday because that's working for me.
Picks, how'd you do last week picks?
[00:48:41] Speaker B: Not great.
[00:48:43] Speaker A: Golly, what'd you do?
[00:48:44] Speaker B: I got one pick, right? And it was Rosa. I was just on a losing streak, man.
[00:48:49] Speaker A: Your least favorite fighter on the card.
[00:48:52] Speaker B: I wouldn't say least favorite. I'm not a giant fan of them. But one, four and one obviously the draw. I got the tie.
[00:49:00] Speaker A: Who'd you pick on the main event?
[00:49:03] Speaker B: I picked Shevchenko to win.
[00:49:05] Speaker A: Okay, so ten nine. She could have won. That would have helped saved your day there.
[00:49:10] Speaker B: All right.
[00:49:11] Speaker A: I went three, two and one on picks. I got Josh frimt wrong. Chevchenko draw.
I got what was it?
It doesn't matter because I got it wrong. I got a few right. Three, two and one moves me to 62 26 and one on the season. Christian moves you to 54 32 and one on the season. Pretty good so far for season zero of picks and bets. Chat GBT GPT is 23 nine and one only getting two technically wrong last week. That would be the Kevin Holland loss and the Shevchenko draw. So pretty stellar from Chat. Maybe we should start looking at those picks in the future. I don't know.
Moving on. We looked at our picks. We kind of brushed over them. We have the same picks for the last four fights that we're going to be covering this week. Differences on the first two?
[00:50:14] Speaker B: Yeah. So I have Johns, Ramos, Fletcher, Rodriguez, Mitchell, Fizzev, in that order, right.
[00:50:19] Speaker A: I have Argetta, Jordan, Battle, Rodriguez, Mitchell.
[00:50:27] Speaker B: Oh, so you're taking battle over Fletcher?
[00:50:29] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sorry, Fletcher. My bad. Hometown hero. Louisiana guy.
[00:50:31] Speaker B: Fletcher sounds a little suspect.
[00:50:34] Speaker A: Rodriguez Mitchell. Fiziev to cap it off. Differences on the two Chad GPT's picking miles Johns ricardo Ramos Brian Battle Marino Rodriguez Bryce Mitchell and Raphael Fizziev.
[00:50:51] Speaker B: I'm only one off from Chat GBT, so I'll take that.
[00:50:55] Speaker A: Okay, cool.
[00:50:57] Speaker B: And it's the hometown guy.
[00:50:58] Speaker A: I'm off on moving into probably the most important part of the whole betting and standings things is you went two and three last week in bets. How are you rebounding? What are your five bets this week? Let me hear your first three UFC, then we'll take a break. I'll give you my three UFC and then we'll go to football. Right.
[00:51:20] Speaker B: So my first UFC bet is going to be the main event. I'm taking fizzev -150 okay moneyline second bet. I'm taking plus 120. ODS for the Ramos win. Over Jordan so Ramos money line plus 120. All right. I got the over in Marnina. Rodriguez michelle Waterson. Gomez. I don't have the line yet, but I have the over in that I know that's going to be a huge minus.
[00:51:47] Speaker A: Yeah, those usually come on Fridays or.
[00:51:51] Speaker B: So, but I need some wins right here. So I'm taking that one.
[00:51:53] Speaker A: That's fair mine. I'm going to have AJ. Fletcher money line.
I'm going to take Rodriguez Waterson over as well. And I'm also going to double up with you there with the Raphael Fiziev moneyline as well. I think he's going to dominate the fight. I think he's going to take Gamrot out and I think he's going to move on to a closer title contention for himself. So for college or for not college, for football. Do you have college in NFL or just one?
[00:52:22] Speaker B: Just the other college.
One NFL.
[00:52:26] Speaker A: All right. Let me hear the college first.
[00:52:28] Speaker B: My college is I'm riding with my boys. I've been riding with them all week or all season. Moneyline. Colorado. I mean points colorado. Colorado plus 21 versus Oregon.
[00:52:39] Speaker A: Dang, dude, we keep thinking the same thing.
[00:52:41] Speaker B: 21 points is a lot. I think Oregon probably wins the game, but things would be a lot closer than that.
[00:52:47] Speaker A: I agree. I also took Colorado covering think it.
[00:52:52] Speaker B: Is that Oregon, which is a notoriously hard place to play.
[00:52:55] Speaker A: I think it's going to be a surprising think. You know, no Travis Hunter, the Adversity they faced last know, playing a rough game. They didn't play the best. I think they're going to double down this week, play better than we expect, maybe not get the win, but I definitely think they're going to cover at least the 21 points.
[00:53:12] Speaker B: So you're taking the same bet?
[00:53:13] Speaker A: Same bet.
[00:53:14] Speaker B: So we have three of the same bets so far.
[00:53:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, we're hinging on each other here, brother.
[00:53:20] Speaker B: You son of a bitch.
[00:53:21] Speaker A: Last NFL. Last bet. NFL bet. What do you got?
[00:53:25] Speaker B: So I'm taking the Washington Commanders plus six and a five.
[00:53:28] Speaker A: Well, I'll be damned.
[00:53:30] Speaker B: Six and a half at home against the Buffalo Bills. I think the Commanders are playing well.
[00:53:36] Speaker A: Buffalo Sam Howell doing well.
[00:53:39] Speaker B: Buffalo played well in their last game, but six and a half points is a lot early in the season at home for Washington. I predict like a Buffalo three point win. So I'm taking the Commanders with the points, six and a half as the underdog at home.
[00:53:52] Speaker A: So that's the same bet I have as well.
[00:53:55] Speaker B: Are you serious?
[00:53:56] Speaker A: No, not at have. I don't know why I'm talking like that.
[00:54:00] Speaker B: Sorry.
[00:54:01] Speaker A: I actually have Texas covering the Jaguars. I think nine and a half is kind of a crazy line with how the Jaguars have been playing.
[00:54:08] Speaker B: Yeah, but the Texans haven't been playing well either.
[00:54:10] Speaker A: They were poised coming into the season know, be a force to be reckoned with and they have not been playing as such.
[00:54:17] Speaker B: It's the NFL. They're going to be all right.
[00:54:19] Speaker A: This has been a weird season to start off. So that's why I think the Texans are going to cover that. Nine and a half on the Jaguars kicking off Q A with an N christian, I want to ask you a few questions.
Following up. Noce UFC. If Alexa Grasso and Valentina shevchenko do not fight.
I know we talked about Grasso. Who she's going to take on for a contender to defend the belt next? Who's Val going to fight? Who's the Bullet going to fight next?
[00:54:54] Speaker B: I think she fights whoever doesn't fight for the title next. Either blanchfield or Fuaro foirro do kind of a little tournament. Have those two fights go on loser fights or winners?
[00:55:08] Speaker A: Right.
[00:55:08] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:55:09] Speaker A: Non fighter fights them, winner of that fights that.
[00:55:11] Speaker B: Who cares about the losers? The winners fight each other.
[00:55:13] Speaker A: Right. Cool.
[00:55:14] Speaker B: I like that.
[00:55:15] Speaker A: Another question we again talked Jack Della, Madeline, who he could be fighting. What about Kevin Holland? I just checked the rankings. They moved up to twelve and 13, respectively. Jack Della, Madeline at twelve, kevin Holland at 13.
Which kind of serves?
We can go with a Joff Neal, Sean Brady, those would both be in timeline for Kevin Holland to fight.
We could go with a Wonder Boy Thompson for another striker.
[00:55:44] Speaker B: Who do you think they fought recently?
[00:55:47] Speaker A: Right. Who do you think Kevin Holland could fight next?
[00:55:51] Speaker B: That's a tough one.
I think after Stephen Thompson beat him, he's not a top ten guy right now, so I don't think it's a top ten guy. What were some of the other guys? Sean Brady, maybe?
[00:56:03] Speaker A: Sean Brady, Joff Neal. Those are both guys that either fought recently or not. Neither fought. They both pulled out of fights recently.
[00:56:11] Speaker B: Well, Jeff Neal just got beat up by it.
[00:56:14] Speaker A: Neil Magni pulled out recently. My bad. Yeah, Neil Magnet pulled out recently. He's also an option to for Kevin Highland, any of those guys. Who do you see as a top 15 bout for Kevin Holland next?
[00:56:27] Speaker B: I kind of like Sean Brady. I wouldn't mind that fight.
[00:56:30] Speaker A: Okay, now, last question.
With Aaron Rodgers going down, tearing his chubb, you know, potentially ruining his career with his latest hit, what do you think to say about the turf on the field? What needs to happen?
[00:56:49] Speaker B: They need to be playing on grass.
[00:56:51] Speaker A: Why? I see. I just personally don't understand that.
[00:56:54] Speaker B: You're playing on pretty much carpet compared to real grass. There's not as much stability.
[00:56:58] Speaker A: Is it that simple?
[00:56:59] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just not the same.
[00:57:02] Speaker A: Okay.
I've never understood what's crazy is.
[00:57:05] Speaker B: None of the major soccer leagues in the world, they all use grass because.
[00:57:09] Speaker A: Of how fuck well, I saw the one report where they were saying that refuses to play on turf, they change out when soccer comes here, they change it out to grass.
[00:57:20] Speaker B: It's like just like they can't do it.
[00:57:23] Speaker A: Right. Yeah, that's kind of crazy to me.
[00:57:25] Speaker B: They just want to save money by not having a ground screw.
[00:57:28] Speaker A: Yeah, that's interesting.
[00:57:31] Speaker B: Any athlete you talk to, 100% of them are going to say grass.
[00:57:37] Speaker A: Good to know. Well, now you've firmed up my opinion. Thank you. I'm now a grass guy if I wasn't before.
[00:57:45] Speaker B: Grass guy.
[00:57:46] Speaker A: So moving on to the last little segment of the podcast, it's the N part, and as any recurring listener will know, the N stands for News. What do you got for me, sir?
[00:57:59] Speaker B: So after this week's controversial ten eight fifth round in the main event, chevchenko Grasso, the ten eight round for Grasso in Grasso's favor that caused the draw, or else ten nine round for Grasso would have been a split decision victory. Shevchenko because of that ten eight round and how controversial it is. The Nevada State Athletic Commission who is over. The judges in Las Vegas, obviously, they are holding a ten eight seminar this week where they go over in full detail what constitutes a ten eight round, what doesn't constitute a ten eight round. Because I think everybody realizes this was a mistake.
Mike Bell I mean, the judges need to be more accountable for some of these bad mistakes.
[00:58:48] Speaker A: Yeah. You can't just you're fucking these guys.
[00:58:52] Speaker B: Not only their careers, but they're literally splitting their pay in half.
[00:58:56] Speaker A: Right. And not only that, the consumers that are watching these fights, there's a lot of people that are betting money and a bad decision that's blatant forces people to lose money where money necessarily wouldn't be lost. I understand where in some cases you're going to lose a bet by a controversial decision. This was the furthest thing from a ten eight round, you could see. Yeah, it was ten nine.
[00:59:24] Speaker B: Both people had success in around no way. A ten eight round.
[00:59:27] Speaker A: Right. My bit of news, we just touched on it. We've had a few injuries in the NFL recently. Aaron Rogers going down, season ending. It happens every year. Nick Chubb going down, season ending. He had surgery. I think he's going to have surgery tomorrow. Everybody's always going down for different reasons in the NFL, in fantasy, that type of injury can just change your whole season. What kind of thing do you think a fan or somebody watching playing fantasy football could do to kind of combat all these injuries? Is it to pick up the handicap or the handcuff? Zach Wilson, jerome Ford, is it worth it?
[01:00:13] Speaker B: There's nothing you can do. It's injuries. It's football unpredictable.
[01:00:17] Speaker A: So you just kind of toss up your buyout and say, damn, I got to screw.
[01:00:21] Speaker B: An NFL team does.
[01:00:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:23] Speaker B: They have to do the same thing.
[01:00:25] Speaker A: Now, that's not to say you're not going to go out fighting. Yeah.
[01:00:28] Speaker B: You're not going to go out fighting. You're going to adjust when it happens.
[01:00:30] Speaker A: But you're still going to do your best. You're just saying there's really no way to recover.
[01:00:35] Speaker B: Not recover. You can't prepare for it.
[01:00:37] Speaker A: Right, okay.
Now with that, somebody like, you know, he has no business taking hits like that. I'm a fan of the Colts. You're a fan of the Saints. If Derek Carr was out there running around just taking hits to win the game. We know that's not long standing from a quarterback perspective.
What does Anthony Richardson need to do to know suffer damage long term?
[01:01:03] Speaker B: Learn how to slide and don't get hit.
[01:01:04] Speaker A: Have another Andrew Luck on our hands where we could be facing a very good prospect and his career is cut short based on simple as that.
[01:01:12] Speaker B: He needs to stop taking hits.
[01:01:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Slide. I like it.
[01:01:17] Speaker B: It sucks.
Know, one of his biggest assets not that he can't pass, but one of his biggest assets is being a runner. But he's got to learn how to not Lamar Jackson. He's gotten hurt a few times, but it's not because he's taking big hits. He doesn't take big hits. He's learned how to not be an effective runner and not really get, like, rocked. He needs to do something like that.
[01:01:37] Speaker A: So what do you have to say about the Saints? They're two and o.
[01:01:40] Speaker B: Two and o. We'll take the two wins. First time they're two and O since, like, 2012 or something. It's been over two a year after.
[01:01:46] Speaker A: You all won the Super Bowl, is that right?
[01:01:48] Speaker B: No, we started bad after we won the Super Bowl, but it was something like that. Okay.
Obviously we haven't played the best, but two wins is two wins, especially in the NFL, not sold on Derek Carr. I don't think he's a long term solution. We'll see how the season goes, though. Our division, even though there's two other two and O teams, I don't think is the best division.
I think the teams might be scrappy and learn how to win games, but it's not teams that are going to come and dominate.
[01:02:11] Speaker A: Right, okay.
[01:02:13] Speaker B: But honestly, we couldn't have wished for a better start to the season.
[01:02:16] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, two and O is to like you said, two and O is two and O. You got to take every win that you can.
[01:02:21] Speaker B: This is the NFL. You don't need style points.
[01:02:23] Speaker A: Right. And lastly, Joe Burrow with the Bengals. This is not the first time they've gone. Owen two.
He seems like they always go off to a rocky start and they finish the year super strong, putting up points. I mean, T. Higgins started off the season owen, eight in week one. Never didn't catch a reception. Rebounding pretty well here. Caught a couple of touchdowns, got some yards, some receptions.
[01:02:47] Speaker B: Yeah, they started owing two last year. Thing that worries me is Joe seems like he kind of tweaked his calf again.
[01:02:53] Speaker A: Yep. That was report that came out. I think he'll be monitored in practice.
[01:02:57] Speaker B: Taylor didn't even the coach wouldn't even say if he's starting this week or not, so we'll see how that goes. Bengals got to wake up, though. They kind of woke up in the second half, but it was too late against the Ravens. Their offense started moving finally.
I trust Joe Burrow. I think they'll get it figured out. They might not win their division, but I think they're a playoff team still. All right, thank you guys for listening to episode 14 of Split Decision. Check us out next week when we recap UFC Vegas 79 Fizzev Gamrot. And for the first time next week, we don't have a UFC card to preview, so check us out to see what we have in store. We got a couple fun things we're going to cover.
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